I started to split this off as a thread of its own, but maybe you aren't quite that serious about an assisted suicide tangent. I'll ask, though, whether you have been intimately involved with end-of-life situations? Because it's exactly at those times that the person in question is least able to make the necessary clear judgement, while turning over the decision to relatives or others opens up various cans of worms. At this point, I think Hospice care is the farthest we can go without using that can opener. Hospice currently is for diagnosed terminal conditions, while you are talking about incurable pain, which overlaps greatly but isn't identical. There's the old saying that suicide is too often a permanent solution to a temporary problem, so you'd better be super sure that the suffering is itself permanent. That darn Hippocratic Oath intersects both Death Penalty and Assisted Suicide discussions. (And will you look at that - I've circled back to the thread topic. )