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  1. I just can't help but be a little skeptical of a guy that has a FIP that is better than his ERA every year and has a .6 run difference for his career, Was LA's defense that bad? Just seems like there is a little more art to pitching than numbers can tell us. I felt our infield defense was pretty good last year. I have come to value outfield defense a lot more over the last decade than I used to but was our outfield defense really worth an extra run per 9? Ugh. Can't wait for Buxton.
  2. Good question. I wouldn't mind a couple of each on my team and would have been happy with a rotation full of either the last 4 years.
  3. You probably want to qualify that awful season comment to say Milone was awful for the Twins last year. His full stat line in the majors shows a 4.19 ERA over 21 starts. That stat line would have easily put him solidly as the #2 starter for the Twins last year.
  4. Quality start minimum requirement is 6 innings pitched with 3 runs given up. As Bert will point out this isn't a terribly high standard. I was just distinguishing this kind of quality start from 7 or 8 inning start with 1 or less runs given up or even a 5 innings start with 0 runs given up. I perhaps could have given a better example. I don't really care how many strikeouts he had but the length of the start is of course relevant. I didn't mean to be taken literally. Gibson in his wins last year had a 1.42 ERA. Koufax in his wins had a 1.35 ERA. I could find a lot more things they have in common but of course I am not trying to say Gibson was anywhere near as good. Just saying when he was good he was really good.
  5. As far as I could tell from stats I have seen 90.8 is the average major league fastball and it was also the average SF Giant fastball so May's average is still over a mile faster and can get it higher still. I don't think the fastball is the problem. He also has what I consider to be a very good curveball and changeup. Control isn't just about not walking people, its about putting waste pitches nearer to the plate to tempt batters and not putting the ball in the heart of the plate as much. If his control gets better I see May much closer to Viola in potential than Radke. Viola's best strikeout rate was 7 and his Cy Young year was 6.8. I just think May has a good fastball and appears to have stuff to make it better and his strikeout rate supports that. Just a little improvement again this year over his overall 2014 rate and I think he can have a very good year.
  6. I have said it wouldn't surprise me if Milone, Meyer and May were able to outpitch Gibson, Santana, and Nolasco. Some have suggested that Gibson should be battling for a spot also but he not only had a lot of quality starts last year they were Koufax kind of quality starts. 12 games giving up 1 or 0 is enough for me to want him in the rotation. Personally, I think the 4 and 5 spots should be open with May, Milone, Nolasco and Meyer battling and with that order going into Spring Training. On paper it looks like this group should be able to pitch as well as the 2010 rotation.
  7. Yet somehow there were more total runs scored in A's games at the Coliseum than their games on the road. Is it a conspiracy that somehow when the A;s were batting the foul territory shrunk? Most pitcher perform better at their home park. The Twins rotation as a whole the last 4 years have an ERA that has averaged over what Milone has done just on the road. Two runs worse than he has done at home. It can't all be foul territory and if he was such a soft tosser why are they hitting so many foul balls off him anyway? His road performance is better than Nolasco's road performance most of which was in the NL and it is better than Santana's road performance and it is better than Gibson's. How is that explained?. I already said his mid 80's fastball probably won't play but maybe it will and maybe he truly was injured and can get it back to upper 80's. Regardless of park he has performed better than the average starter in the majors and as such didn't really deserved a demotion. That is all I am saying. I want May or Meyer also but soft tosser or not the 83 games he has started is not really that small a sample size and really he has a better resume than Nolasco, Gibson and Santana...
  8. I understand the decision but when the going rate for quality starts across the board is 50% its kind of harsh to be demoted right after doing it in 9 of your last 11 starts. I know not everyone sees ERA as a great stat but Milone has a career ERA under 4 in 83 starts and was at 3.55 on the season when demoted. In the last 4 years the Twins have only had one qualifying pitcher each year under 4 ERA and Hughes finished the year at 3.57 and was our ace. They have had 10 qualifying pitchers over 5 and mostly well over 5 ERA in that time period. Milone over 83 starts has an American League ERA under 4.00. Are you saying his upside is now well over that? I fully expect the Twins rotation to be better this year but can pretty well guarantee they won't have 5 guys with an ERA under 4. If I am wrong I will be very happy to be wrong. I also want May to be that 5th guy but think Milone deserves a little more respect for what he has done and it is only the decrease in mph that make me think his best days might be behind him. If the surgery gets his fastball back up closer to 90 then there should be no reason to think that.
  9. I guess I would be plenty annoyed at being demoted as well. After a solid couple seasons he has a slow start where his ERA was 5.86 after 5 starts. He then has 9 quality starts over his next 11 games, is credited with 6-0 record as the A's won 9 of those 11 starts. He brought his ERA down to 3.55 and was then demoted. I cannot think of a similar case in the history of baseball. His 3.55 ERA would have made him our #2 pitcher and was likely better than over half the starters in the majors and next thing he knows he is pitching in the minors. Also makes me wonder if the A's knew something about his neck or arm condition at the time. In general I don't care how hard he throws as long as he has stuff and control to make up for it. So by itself the mph don't bother me but the decrease in mph does concern me. We will see what his velocity is now if he actually is completely healthy. Many pitchers have different splits on home and road. Some do better some do worse. I wouldn't write it all off to larger foul territory. How many are caught because of the extra room and how many would he have gotten out anyway? Maybe it is that much of a factor but then it should be nearly that much of a factor for all pitchers. Its not like it was bigger for just him.
  10. I agree with you. To me his major league season was not good but I am still glad he got the experience. What earned him the chance to be the 5th starter was his outstanding body of work before his calf injury in the minors. I didn't really think he was quite back in the groove after taking a month off for that injury. Time will tell but if he is the back end of a rotation I think he has a fair chance of being one of the best back of the rotation pitchers in the league. I am not sure Meyer, Milone and May can't outpitch Santana, Gibson and Nolasco.
  11. I think you are overlooking how good Trout has been and is. Loved Puckett and hard to argue with HOFer but Putckett started at age 24 and had one top 2 MVP finish. Trout at current age 22 has three top 2 MVP finishes. Pretty sure I would trade Buxton and Sano for Trout. Trout so far is closer to Mantle than to Puckett. I agree that he looks like a once in a generation type. .280 15 homers and 35 doubles along with GG defense would make me happy with Buxton. Any more would thrill me.
  12. Dozier, Escobar, Santana, Gordon and Polanco. I think the future will have Dozier in a sign and trade but no need for that now. What are our needs? Give up Nolasco and Dozier will that get us a super pitching or catching prospect? I know outfield is the biggest need now but hopefully that won't be the case in a year.
  13. I like your last sentence and will apply it to your first sentence. Since the Twins have struggled to find one, much less three, outfielders to hit or play defense I'll be happy to see the Twins solve the problem of having a very productive power hitter versus having a good defensive guy that hits with just decent power once it proves to be one. If Rosario plays good defense and hits .300 with gap power (I know its a big if but we are talking about him hitting well without power as the premise) I want him to be centerfielder this year and move to a corner when Buxton comes up. If we happen to have a guy in the future that he competes with that can be more productive with power, then great. Right now we have Hunter, Hicks, Schaeffer and Arcia.
  14. I don't think they are basing their comments on the minor league season. You miss 50 games their and we are starting to talk small sample size. Even smaller sample size in the AFL but if he didn't do well there I don't think they would have been talking him up. His performance there simply put him back in the mix.
  15. I guess I didn't actually respond to your original premise of the comparison to Arcia mainly because I don't expect Rosario to be battling for that spot. Rosario with good defense and even a bit less than your standards for offense would get me excited for him being in center this year and taking over for Hunter either this year or for the following years in a corner. We are not at cross purposes here. I have been high on Rosario and hope he meets your expectations because that is a really good stat line..
  16. I like the high standards. However, since the defense in the corners aside from a year of Span in right field has never really been that great the last 10 year and since only 4 outfielders overall have matched your criteria for offense in the last 10 years I think the standards might be a bit high. In fact, if we got those stats along with GG defense from Buxton eventually I would probably be just fine with it. It was easy research for the last 4 years because just a .280 average stuck out like a sore thumb. I might have missed one or two but Cuddyer did it in 2011 and 2006 (just ok Defense). D Young did it in 2010 (horrible D)., Kubel in 2009 (ok D) Hunter in 2007 (great D). Cuddyer and Hunter had another year that was close. If we could get good corner defense from Rosario to go along with .330 OBP and 40 extra base hits of any kind that would be worthwhile. Aside from the good D its what I would expect from Hunter this year.
  17. "With other stronger defensive center fielders in the system, it seems likely that he’ll have to play a corner outfield spot in Minnesota. That means he’ll have to show he can hit for power." I've never really cared for these comments especially when I have so often seen Twins hitters in the past (Mauer, Punto, Valencia, Young, Morneau, Cuddyer) try to hit for more power only to have their OBP and average diminish without adding much if any power.. If the Twins of the near future have Sano, Arcia, Dozier, Vargas, Buxton and maybe Plouffe then table setters become more valuable and if we have Arcia in one corner then I definitely want speed in the other corner to go with Buxton. If he hits for power then fine but I primarily want to see that OBP from Rosario.
  18. Give Shaquille O'neal all the instruction in the world and I doubt he could touch 80. There are guys 5"11 165 that can throw 95 mph. Its the same as homerun hitters. Size can help but it hardly means everything. Besides which May seems to be in that 93 mph range which puts him over 2mph above the league average and over 2mph above the average of the WS champion Giants. In addition, his strikeout totals tell me he isn't the typical guy with low 90's fastball. He obviously has stuff which I am more concerned with. Nick Blackburn could touch 95 mph with his fastball at the end. Didn't mean much. What I noticed about May last year was that his waste pitches were truly waste pitches. They didn't even tempt the batters which just gave them a free ball. I wouldn't mind if his strikeout totals dropped a little bit if it meant he got more easy outs by making hitters chase a little bit more when ahead in the count.
  19. Not really sure why the Twins have this rap? Meyer is the only guy I can think of in years that really should have been promoted to the majors quicker and that is just quibbling a bit. The list above has a lot of names that simply did better than Meyer in terms of WHIP and ERA which is my basic point. If his stuff is so overwhelming and walks don't matter that much then those stats should be better. He's facing the same competition that Pino was and was giving up 50% more runs. The two guys I checked on the list above that had worse stats than Meyer were Lester and Kluber and those guys spent 6 and 7 years respectively in the minors. Meyer has spent 3. If he pitches well he will make the team this year.
  20. Especially if May and Meyer are already in the mix.
  21. WHIP or ERA for all those other guys? I thought May pitched better in 2014 based just on ERA and quality starts. I thought Meyer should have been promoted soon after May since he was simply the next most deserving based on performance. I didn't care for the pitch or innings limits. Nothing I have ever seen convinces me that Meyer is any more or less likely to be hurt the first week of spring training because of the coddling. Nothing I have ever seen convinces me that if he had thrown 180 innings last year that it would affect 2015 in any way.
  22. How does one learn command as a reliever? Why would anyone want a reliever with command issues? Why does anyone want a setup man with command issues and why would a reliever with command issues have value in a trade? Maybe his future is in the pen but I would think command comes from more innings pitched rather than fewer.
  23. Wasn't responding to the 100 games so much as the running away with the division. I certainly haven't given up on the Twins before the first pitch is even thrown. Young talent isn't likely to mature all at the same time but I am an optimist. Twins are the least likely to win the division and that means you are a very good bet to be right. I watch for that small chance that you are wrong. Its baseball. Worst to first happens.
  24. I think Arcia does have the upside. My expectations for Arcia and Mauer in 2015 are quite high. Arcia had a .999 OPS in AAA and .955 in AA. Meyer had a .352 ERA in AAA. Good and probably deserving of a call up late last year but hardly breaking down the door. .
  25. That's kind of the thing. I could see any of these teams doing that. Indians are certainly one of them.
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