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  1. Battle ur tail off
    This as a philosophy is just fine, and actually what most here realize is the case. We also realize that, as you say, we must get more per dollar than larger market teams do. That said, you can't be 100% rigid with any philosophy and expect to win the big one. Twins are in dire need of starting pitching right now. They are not really in need of position players as a whole. They have lots of money available to use, and lots of high end prospects as capital. Does it not make sense to utilize all the capital you have in order to produce the best team you can? Or can winning only happen here when you stick to the "value" philosopy of roster construction. My argument is that it takes both. It does no good to carry that money with you, nor does it do any good to carry prospects in areas where you already have young guys manning their positions. By spending what you can, and using your prospect capital, my opinion is then and only then are you actually maximizing the potential of those assets.
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    I agree with the premise of the first part of your post. I think the rotation improving has alot to do with Berrios improving and turning into one of the best 7-8 pitchers in baseball. Odorizzi though? I think him performing the way he did last year would be about as good as we can expect. Signing a guy like Madbum or Ryu IMO, is more about quality throughout the rotation, than it is about signing one of them to be your ACE. A #2 guy is about all we can expect out of either of them. Berrios, unless we sign Cole or Strasburg, will still be this team's #1 guy. As far as getting any pitcher to sign for 2-3 years that doesn't profile as a 4th-5th starter. It's not gonna happen. You want one of these guys I think 4 years will be the absolute minimum it will take to get them.
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    Then I am totally, 100% behind this signing. It's too bad, our catcher position had to be the best in baseball last year, or close to it, they were amazing together. In fact, it was so good that I am not sure the capability for it to be that good again is there. My guess is we see a fairly large regression offensively from Garver this year. Hope not, he was studly last season.
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    NO.
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    Most likely. This guy is actually gonna be a pretty good backup catcher. But I just don't know why you would mess with something that went so extremely well for you last year. Especially when you know Castro isn't going to command a ton of cash. Now, he might want to start somewhere and then that is totally acceptable. To not bring him back though because he was gonna cost a little extra dough though is inexcusable.
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    Good move. I like this guy as a backup catcher. I am very curious though why more effort wasn't put into retaining Castro? Last year's catching situation was flat out, the best in baseball, offensively anyway.
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    I am extremely glad they got this done. I felt this is a move that simply had to be made. Happy they didn't wait around for other teams to get heavily involved and brought him back. I, like almost everyone else here though feel that now we are back at last years level for the rotation.(I do think Berrios turns the corner this year though). Add 1 more guy that is high end and we are looking pretty good. At worst, add 2 guys you feel can give you a chance.
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    Thing is, the Vikings sure never have a problem getting the free agents they want. Regardless where they live or family lives etc. That's because if they decide they want someone, they pay top dollar and get them. Big difference when you are the top bidder vs someone halfway down the line.
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    He's right. Liriano didn't pitch in the postseason for the Twins until 2009. By this time he had already blown out his arm and had TJ surgery.
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    You guys are correct. The Twins are a landing spot for FA's that don't have a ton of interest from anyone else. If we have to bid against someone else, or go above what we deem as fair value for a player, count them out. Look at it this way. When Bumgarner signs somewhere at least we will get to hear the Twins are "IN" on Strasburg and Cole for a couple weeks before they sign with one of the big boys. LOL
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    The thing is, you will have to overpay EVERY SINGLE TIME in free agency if you are looking for high end starting pitching. We all know that, the front office knows that. When you really NEED something and you identify a piece there that fits and you have determined it is the BEST piece for you, you need to go get it, no matter what it takes. Or, the alternative is to be left with what will end up happening, signing someone that is middling to average. There literally isn't another contending team in the league that needs starting pitching more than the Twins. They know that, everyone else knows it. The price will be steep. Either commit yourself to actually go get it, or tell everyone up front you are not looking to play that game and quit wasting time and work on trades and developing your guys. Don't come out and tell us how you are going to add impact pitching and come out with a token offer 20 million below what your prize actually signed for. Twins knew the market, they knew he wasn't signing for 5/100. Token, we tried offer is all it was.
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    Yes, the same one that employed Jason Tyner at DH.
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    LOL. I've just seen it for too many years. We all watched the last core of great Twins turn into nothing but a few division championships and playoff sweeps. We saw the core before that turn in one playoff series win. All the while they protected their pocketbooks and prospects and just ended up with a bunch of losing sandwiched between those division titles. I prefer to go for it. We all know the time is now. Why not us?
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    Don't worry, most likely they won't get him anyway.
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    "He was asking too much", "We tried", "He didn't want to play here", "He wanted to stay closer to home" Carl's ghost thanks you and is in your corner. What will they say when Madbum turns them down?
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    Understand he will command 100 mill as well. Twins will value him well below that. Expect to hear they are "IN" on him for a week until he signs with someone else. Twins will "try" though. LOL
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    Hamels is also gone now. Cole and Strasburg will go to east coast and west coast teams. Madbum and Ryu are there best chances, but with how many were in on Wheeler, I'd say Twins will get smoked on them as well. Thanks Dougie for the tweet backing up the Twins. I will wait to hear LaVelle's as well patting them on the back for "trying". LOL
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    Yep, just like last season. When asked for prospects for high end pitching, Twins turn tail and run. They are just as stingy with those guys as they are with their money. Don't count on a blockbuster.
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    I get where you are coming from, but don't the Twins, with the roster they have, owe it to their team and fans to get some high end pitching in here? We know it's going to be an overpay. But they have the money or prospects if needed. OVERPAY if you have to. Every ones of those teams you mention has, in their history went out and bought a stud. All of them. I'm not asking for the moon every season, but the position the Twins are in right now 100% warrants them spending big, or trading big to get over the hump. If not now, it will never happen.
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    Boy, what a lineup of studs there. A gaggle of #4 starters in the third tier of free agents. Bargain shopping. Yes, they overpaid for Nolasco, but at best he was a #3 starter. This doesn't do anything to make me confident they will go after someone real.
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    Why posturing? To make the fans feel as if they are actually gonna open the pocket books. Public relations. Some people eat it up that we are "IN" on someone. I didn't say it was a bad idea to not offer Darvish 6 years. That said, this is a recurring theme with our favorite team. If it takes so and so amount to sign these guys, we offer in just below that value and say "we tried".
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    Didn't get it done as per usual with Twins in FA negotiations for players in the top 1/3 or so of the list. Token.
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    And he signed for 126 million. Token offer me boy. I know some haven't been around for long, but until they do something different. It will always be the same old same old around this team. Johan Santana was offered a hefty contract also, so was Tori Hunter. Problem being it wasn't market value. Can a tiger change its stripes? Is this a new front office? Yep, it sure is and for that I will hold out hope. What I expect to happen and what I hope happen though are 2 different things.
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    Don't hold your breath!!!
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    Yep. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/12/zack-wheeler-bidding-already-in-nine-figures.html IMO, this takes the Twins out of the running. Just too many teams to overbid and we are too cheap. We wanted a tier 1 pitcher, would settle for a tier-2 guy, but get ready folks, tier 3 it is. One step up from the dumpster. That is my prediction. Hope I'm wrong.
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