Brock Beauchamp

For anyone who wants a glance at his soul-crushing numbers with the Giants this season... Standard Batting Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB Pos Awards 2021 27 SFG NL 49 171 148 25 39 7 2 12 27 3 0 17 37 .264 .349 .581 .930 148 86 2 3 2 1 0 37H/98 3 Yrs 91 284 243 38 59 12 3 14 33 4 2 32 55 .243 .344 .490 .834 124 119 2 6 2 1 0 162 Game Avg. 162 506 433 68 105 21 5 25 59 7 4 57 98 .243 .344 .490 .834 124 212 4 11 4 2 0 MIN (2 yrs) 42 113 95 13 20 5 1 2 6 1 2 15 18 .211 .336 .347 .684 87 33 0 3 0 0 0 SFG (1 yr) 49 171 148 25 39 7 2 12 27 3 0 17 37 .264 .349 .581 .930 148 86 2 3 2 1 0 AL (2 yrs) 42 113 95 13 20 5 1 2 6 1 2 15 18 .211 .336 .347 .684 87 33 0 3 0 0 0 NL (1 yr) 49 171 148 25 39 7 2 12 27 3 0 17 37 .264 .349 .581 .930 148 86 2 3 2 1 0 Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table Generated 7/27/2021.

To be fair to Celestino, he has no business being the majors. He's 22 years old with all of 105 PAs in AA and zero PAs in AAA. He's in way over his head right now.

Celestino shouldn't be in the majors right now, he has development to do in the minors.

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I was rolling my eyes at LaTroy so hard... and then Sano doubled.

Hard pass. This doesn’t make much sense for the Twins on a few levels. I can’t recall ever seeing Bowden write something I agreed with, actually.

Yeah… BA released their mid season list and it included all of two Twins prospects. The shine of this front office is wearing off in a hurry. We were promised pitching and I don’t see any coming soon. I gave them the benefit of the doubt coming out of the pandemic but we’re past the mid season mark. We should see prospects emerging and we’re really not, at least not in the numbers they need to succeed as an organization.

Pressly was quite good before he was traded, which is why the Twins were able to get a nice return on him. Then Houston helped him get to another level and become great. And are you implying that Rogers isn’t good now?

That's a pretty crap take, frankly. Yeah, the front office didn't do enough but Michael Pineda and Kenta Maeda are not the players who tanked this season. Their point is somewhat accurate but every single name mentioned is wrong.

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Oh, for sure… these deals aren’t in isolation and I view them as more of a straw that breaks the camel’s back.

Those numbers are really close to what I’m thinking as well. A healthy, performing Buxton is a $30m player while Berríos is a $20-25m player.

While I personally lean toward signing Buxton, I understand why others would prefer Berríos. But either way, the Twins can’t afford to let two very good players walk in free agency - or be traded - and compete at the highest level in the next couple of seasons. There’s still time to get something done but it needs to happen by Christmas and if this front office can’t ink either player, it may be time for them to go. And I’m not getting a good feeling after hearing their offer was so low on Buxton, possibly even insultingly low for someone of his talent level.

The Twins have been decent to good at developing relievers who miss bats, actually. Year - MLB Rank in reliever SO 2019 - 12th 2020 - 6th Obviously, the bullpen is terrible this year but past bullpens have been quite good.

That trade turned out to be epic level terrible, that’s for sure.

To be clear, *today* Buxton is the better player and I don’t think it’s close. I was examining Hicks’ prime age seasons more than what we can expect him to do going forward because, as you said, he’s already over 30. It’s entirely possible he isn’t even a centerfielder in the near future.

Buxton's career OPS+ is only 100, though. Hicks isn't a terrible comp to Buxton, except Buxton is a little bit better at everything. Buxton is elite defensively while Hicks is "eh, whatever". And the mature version of Hicks seems to have settled in around a 120 OPS+ but I expect Buxton to land more in the 130-ish range. Combine those two things and they're worth a couple of wins over a full season, provided Buxton ever plays a full season. Hicks has also benefited quite a bit from that clowncar stadium in the Bronx, posting a 115 tOPS+ so the real talent level between the two players is possibly substantial and more than a couple of wins.

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This is actually what I'm noticing and thinking as well. We may end up landing on a tiered solution that treats desktop, tablet, and mobile all differently.

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Same. I’m really interested in Buxton’s counter offers.

Hmm. $80m guaranteed for seven years is pretty unimpressive. If I was Buxton, I wouldn’t even consider anything lower than a $15m base salary with big escalators.

While this is absolutely true, I think moving contracts and saving money in 2021 may make ownership more willing to enter another season with a higher payroll, with Falvine saying “if things go sideways, we can always save a bunch of money in the second half of the season again”. If Falvine move expiring contracts (and they have no excuse not to do so), they could save the Pohlads close to $15m in salaries if my mental math is right.

Never mind, found it. Yeah, I don’t like this. The Twins need to either get one of these guys extended or consider trading them both. With the uncertainty of a new CBA looming, keeping either of them is a really big gamble.

Link?