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    Top 5 Third Basemen for the Twins to Target


    Nash Walker

    If the Twins are intent on moving Miguel Sanó to first base to improve the defense, here are five of the best options to fill in at third base. The scoring system is on a 1-10 scale (1 being not favorable to the Twins, 10 being very favorable to the Twins) and are scored for availability, commitment cost (cash), prospect cost, and both offensive and defensive impact.

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    5. Evan Longoria, San Francisco Giants

    Longoria has three years and $53 million left on the six-year, $100 million deal he signed with Tampa Bay in 2016. The three-time All-Star has hit .249/.303/.424 (96 OPS+) since being traded to the Giants.

    Since 2017, Longoria has started the fifth most games at third base (379), but has saved the third most runs (25). He continues to be a strong defender entering his age-34 season.

    Availability: 4

    Commitment cost: 2

    Prospect cost: 4

    Offensive impact: 2

    Defensive impact: 7

    Twins Score: 19

    4. Nolan Arenado, Colorado Rockies

    It seems to be a matter of when, not if, Arenado will be moved. He signed an eight-year, $260 million extension with Colorado last winter but the deal includes an opt-out clause after the 2021 season. Arenado also has the right to refuse a deal to Minnesota under his full no-trade clause.

    The impact of Arenado would be massive. He is a seven-time Gold Glove winner, saving 117 runs with a career UZR of 47.9. He also hit .315/.379/.583 with 41 home runs and 31 doubles in 2019.

    Availability: 3

    Commitment cost: 2

    Prospect cost: 2

    Offensive impact: 8

    Defensive impact: 10

    Twins Score: 25

    3. Kyle Seager, Seattle Mariners

    Seager’s name has been tossed around this offseason as he enters year six of his seven-year, $100 million contract. Seager is slated to make $19.5 million in 2020 and $18.5 million in 2021 with a club option for $15 million in 2022. If traded, that club option becomes a player option.

    Seager hit .239/.321/.468 (112 OPS+) with 23 homers in 106 games last year. Seager has hit 20 or more home runs in each of the last eight seasons. He had -1 DRS and a 6.9 UZR in 2019 and has been an average defensive third baseman for nearly his entire career.

    Availability: 8

    Commitment cost: 4

    Prospect cost: 4

    Offensive impact: 5

    Defensive impact: 5

    Twins Score: 26

    2. Kris Bryant, Chicago Cubs

    The Cubs have been in “fervent pursuit” of trades this winter, but are seemingly waiting for the results of the Bryant grievance. The ruling will decide whether Bryant will have one or two more seasons until free agency. This is a huge factor in his trade value.

    Bryant is projected to make $18.5 million in his third year of arbitration after hitting .282/.382/.521 with 31 home runs and 35 doubles in 147 games last year. The Twins’ interest may hinge on if they think Bryant can improve their infield defense. He posted -7 DRS and a -1.4 UZR in 2019. Still, his bat is a superpower.

    Availability: 6

    Commitment cost: 7

    Prospect cost: 3

    Offensive impact: 8

    Defensive impact: 4

    Twins Score: 28

    1. Josh Donaldson, Free Agent

    Donaldson is playing a dangerous waiting game and the Twins are looking into other options. Donaldson hit .259/.379/.521 with 37 home runs for the Braves last year. He saved 15 runs defensively and ranks third since 2016 in DRS at third base. He reportedly sees some appeal in playing for Rocco Baldelli and against the American League Central:

    https://twitter.com/DWolfsonKSTP/status/1214660158938394625?s=20

    Donaldson requires only money (and a draft pick), is at least a little interested in playing in Minnesota, and would transform the infield defense while turning the lineup into the scariest in baseball.

    Availability: 7

    Commitment cost: 5

    Prospect cost: 10

    Impact on offense: 8

    Impact on defense: 8

    Twins Score: 38

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    I'll say it again. If the Twins are serious about improving the infield defense moving Sano to 1B isn't going to cut it. I can just envision him running to the fence chasing every errant throw he misses way way way too often. I believe Ortiz was a 1st baseman with the Twins and when he went to Boston he quickly became a DH for the same reason why Sano will never stick at 1B either. So why move him there in the first place? I'm open to trying Arraez at 3B, moving Polanco to 2B, and getting a good defensive SS. But that doesn't solve the 1B issue. I think it is going to take another season to resolve these issues. Nelson Cruz is the log-jam at DH forcing the Twins to play Sano in the field. Cruz is a nice log-jam but he creates a defensive problem.

    There seems to be an incredible range of views on Sano's defensive abilities.  Some claim that with some effort he can be transformed into an average to above average third baseman.  Others claim that he is so inept that a move to right field caused him to get hurt sliding into second base; or, as the above states, he in unable to catch a throw at first.  I have been skeptical of Sano the third baseman since I first saw him play there in his rookie year.  That does not mean he is inept.  He has some surprising skill's, such as the ability to charge slow rollers and make off balance throws.  He also handles balls hit directly at him at least at an average level.  He struggles with reaction time and range, something that is not at all unexpected with a man of his size and build.  That said, I would never compare him to David Ortiz defensively.  Ortiz never played any position other than 1B defensively as a pro, and never played it at any level other than badly.As stated by at least one previous poster, rather than Ortiz, the more accurate comparisons would be Albert Pujols and Miguel Cabrera, others who played third base and outfield prior to a move to first and eventually DH.

     

    I've been guilty of skimming some articles in my time. But this is literally the opening line of the article:

    "If the Twins are intent on moving Miguel Sanó to first base to improve the defense, here are five of the best options to fill in at third base."

    The issue with that statement is the assumption that by moving a guy who is -5 DRS at third base (which is better than Devers, Moncada, Bryant, and Turner, btw) to a position where is not used to playing and will touch the ball 3-4 times more frequently, will improve the defense...

     

    We saw how well defense improved when he was moved to right field

    The issue with that statement is the assumption that by moving a guy who is -5 DRS at third base (which is better than Devers, Moncada, Bryant, and Turner, btw) to a position where is not used to playing and will touch the ball 3-4 times more frequently, will improve the defense...

     

    We saw how well defense improved when he was moved to right field

    I made zero assumptions about whether it would actually work or not.

    I was simply pointing out that your question was literally answered explicitly in the opening line.

    Face it, the Twins are going to sign Greg Bird to play 1st base on a 1-year deal and that's the only free agent we're gonna get. Gonzalez will see his fair share of time there as well. Look for Ivan Nova, Andrew Cashner, or a reclamation project like Aaron Sanchez or Shelby Miller to join the staff before Spring Training. Alex Wood at this point would be the biggest possible splash - whoops, nevermind the Dodgers just signed him.

     

    I'm not down on this team. They're good. But sitting on their hands all winter seems ignorant, especially with what the White Sox are doing. I see Chicago being a major problem, their fans must be absolutely thrilled with how the off-season has gone so far in the AL Central.

     

    I've been guilty of skimming some articles in my time. But this is literally the opening line of the article:

    "If the Twins are intent on moving Miguel Sanó to first base to improve the defense, here are five of the best options to fill in at third base."

    I think what we should infer from his post is that he doesn't believe we should be looking for a third baseman because we already have one.

     

    I'll say it again. If the Twins are serious about improving the infield defense moving Sano to 1B isn't going to cut it. I can just envision him running to the fence chasing every errant throw he misses way way way too often. I believe Ortiz was a 1st baseman with the Twins and when he went to Boston he quickly became a DH for the same reason why Sano will never stick at 1B either. So why move him there in the first place? I'm open to trying Arraez at 3B, moving Polanco to 2B, and getting a good defensive SS. But that doesn't solve the 1B issue. I think it is going to take another season to resolve these issues. Nelson Cruz is the log-jam at DH forcing the Twins to play Sano in the field. Cruz is a nice log-jam but he creates a defensive problem.

    I'll say it again too! Keep Sano at third and find someone else to handle first base for the next year or two. Say what you want about Sano as a third baseman, but I honestly can see him helping the club any more by playing first base. I still remember that short-lived experiment with him in right field and fear a similar debacle if we move him to first.

    I think what we should infer from his post is that he doesn't believe we should be looking for a third baseman because we already have one.

    I understand what he's inferring.

    But the author isn't giving an opinion on, nor asking whether we SHOULD be looking for a replacement.

    He's outlining some of the Twins options, IF "the Twins are intent on moving Miguel Sanó to first base to improve the defense."

     

    Personally, I'm ok giving Sano one more year to see if he can stabilize his defense. And, I'm a person who typically "overvalues" defense on this site.

     

    But of the options available, I think only Donaldson is a clear net upgrade.

    I definitely have no interest in Longoria.

     

    I'm more and more intrigued by trading for a better defensive SS, and moving Polanco to 3B. I think upgrading SS is going to impact the game more than upgrading 3B.

    I think a lot of the debate on this thread is caused by this statement in the article: 

    "if the Twins are intent on moving Miguel Sanó to first base to improve the defense".

     

    That's an unnecessarily narrow premise. What about if the Twins want to improve the offense?...or better, improve overall?

     

    They don't have two corner infielders (of the proven major-league variety). The question should be...do any of the 3rd-basemen in the article make the Twins a better overall team, with Sano at first...that they would be with Sano at 3rd and player x at first? Clearly, the answer is YES for some of the options in the article...even considering any of the current possibilities for player X. So, IMO...as always...it comes down to the cost for Arenado, Seager, Bryant, Donaldson.

     

    I understand what he's inferring.
    But the author isn't giving an opinion on, nor asking whether we SHOULD be looking for a replacement.
    He's outlining some of the Twins options, IF "the Twins are intent on moving Miguel Sanó to first base to improve the defense."

    Personally, I'm ok giving Sano one more year to see if he can stabilize his defense. And, I'm a person who typically "overvalues" defense on this site.

    But of the options available, I think only Donaldson is a clear net upgrade.
    I definitely have no interest in Longoria.

    I'm more and more intrigued by trading for a better defensive SS, and moving Polanco to 3B. I think upgrading SS is going to impact the game more than upgrading 3B.

    I was trying to tell you that you should have inferred where he stood rather than suggest or note that he didn't.  He didn't need to infer anything.  He knew the article was about finding other third base options and he isn't interested.  It wasn't that he didn't understand the author's objective.  He didn't agree with it.  Simple as that.  

     

    I don't think we need to waste energy looking for a third baseman if we just extended Sano.  It make no sense  We have moved him around enough already.  Let him settle into third base this year and let's see what happens.  I would rather we just pick up Mitch Moreland to share first base duties and figure out once and for all if Sano moves to full-time DH after Cruz is gone.




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