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    The Andrew Albers Circus


    Jeremy Nygaard

    Since the original release was sent out late Wednesday night, the transaction story of Andrew Albers has been downright confusing.

    CAUTION: Do not read if you want to avoid a headache.

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    The night of last Wednesday, August 10th, started with Brian Dozier and the Twins hanging five runs on Dallas Keuchel, but ended with a steady stream of rain that washed the game out and those five runs away.

    Due to the rainout forcing the Twins and Astros to play two games the following day, the Twins issued a release at 10:57 pm announcing that they planned to select the contract of Andrew Albers from Rochester to serve as the 26th man for the second game of the day Thursday, as baseball rules allow.

    But the first game of the day was a disaster and immediately following the game, the Twins announced that Buddy Boshers was headed to the disabled list and Andrew Albers would have his contract selected and replace Boshers on the active roster. There would be no 26th man for the doubleheader because Pat Light, who was going to be called up from Rochester, had a flight get cancelled.

    Albers wasn’t particularly good, getting hit around for 11 hits. But he served his purpose, pitching six innings to save an already-taxed bullpen.

    Two days later, Albers was designated for assignment.

    We all know what that means - when a player is DFAd a 40-man (and 25-man spot - if the player is on the 25-man roster) opens immediately and the player goes into “DFA limbo” for up to 10 days. Typically the limbo ends when the player is traded, sent through release waivers and released, or sent through outright waivers where he is either claimed (buh-bye) or clears and is “outrighted” to the minor leagues.

    So imagine my surprise when the beat writers started reporting that Albers was “optioned” to Rochester. Wait. What? An “optioned” player is on the 40-man roster. An “optioned” player is just coming off the 25-man roster. Albers was on neither.

    Or was he?

    Well, what happened is that Albers had to pass through a different set of waivers called “optional waivers.” A place that players go when they have an option left, but when three calendar years have passed since their big-league debut. The Twins didn’t need the 40-man spot, but they needed a roster spot so bad that they had to DFA Albers while the formality of the “optional waivers” processed. Albers goes back on the 40-man too.

    So what the heck?

    I recalled reading this article about the Indians DFA'ing (but not really DFA'ing) Carlos Carrasco and it got my mind spinning…. was this the same thing? It certainly appeared to be.

    But I still find myself asking a few questions:

    When the Indians did this with Carrasco their release said they “designated Carrasco for assignment Sunday for the purpose of optioning him to Class AAA Columbus.” The Twins, however, said they were designating “left-handed pitcher Andrew Albers for release or assignment.” Why not be up front in the release? Semantics, I guess, considering they were going to option him… which is an assignment.

    Why did the Twins change course and add Albers to the 25-man roster when DL'ing Boshers instead of just leaving Albers as the 26th man and adding Light the next day? Does it have to do with the fact that Albers couldn’t simply be sent down immediately after the game because he’d have to clear optional waivers? (In that case, DFA him right away.) Or did the Twins front office not realize they’d be hamstrung by adding Albers? (Which would be hard for me to be mad at anyway, because I didn’t know the rule.)

    Was there concern that Albers wouldn’t clear outright waivers? Or that he wouldn’t accept his assignment? (He’s been outrighted before, so he could elect free agency.)

    Maybe the Twins had no intention of sending Albers back down right away, but had to in light of Milone’s injury?

    At any rate, Andrew Albers remains on the 40-man roster on optional assignment to Rochester. Of course, it’s not really going to matter anyway in a couple of months, when Albers is sent through outright waivers to clear up a space on the 40-man.

    But I’ll tell you what, the series of transactions led this geek to do a lot of head-scratching.

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    Why DL Boshers before you have to, if it means you have to add Albers and DFA him then? Why not just keep Boshers on the roster 1 more day?

     

    Why not promote Light, if that was the plan?

     

     

    And, as my edit shows, I finally figured out the 25 man thing with Albers...

     

    Doesn't that ultimately make it matter more right now?  If it's a forgone conclusion that Albers will be outrighted after the season and may elect free agency, why keep him on the roster beyond what was necessary (the doubleheader)?

     

    And what does it say about Dean and O'Rourke that they were both effectively behind the "designated man walking" Albers on the depth chart?

     

    And what does it say about the Twins that we are investing August innings / roster openings in a lost season on 3 pitchers, ages 27, 28, and 30, all of whom have had opportunities before, have very low upsides, and are very likely to be gone for nothing when the season ends?

    Sure, but the OP was about figuring out the move, not figuring out why the Twins insist on investing innings in guys like Albers, et al.  That discussion exists in a host of other threads on the site. 

     

    The question I have is once it was known that Light wouldn't get on a flight in time, why not just wait on a move? Don't DL Boshers until after the second game, Albers is still your 26th man, even though Boshers is unavailable.  That way, you can still send Albers down without a transaction after the second game if you have to use him a lot (like they did) and call someone else up, or you can make the same move you did between games.  

     

     

    This has likely been said in six different ways already, but why didn't they just leave Albers as #26. Then just send him back? And deal with Buddy as a separate issue?

     

    While you are both correct that once Albers lost his "26th man" status, he had to clear optional assignment waivers to be optioned back to AAA, it wouldn't have made any practical difference.  He could be (and was) DFA'd before we requested optional assignment waivers, so he was no longer on the roster while we waited for him to clear said waivers.

     

    If they waited until after the second game, they would have optioned Albers to get back to 25 guys, and then DL'ed Boshers and replaced him with Dean.  But they still would have been waiting on Milone's health status before they could add another player, and Milone's health status wasn't confirmed until later in the day Friday.

     

    Why DL Boshers before you have to, if it means you have to add Albers and DFA him then? Why not just keep Boshers on the roster 1 more day?

     

    Why not promote Light, if that was the plan?

    See my reply above.  I'm not sure it made any practical difference to do it another way.

     

    As for Light, I'd guess the Twins saw their needs shift between Thursday afternoon and Saturday.  As of midday Thursday they needed another pitcher, but not necessarily a multi-inning guy -- they still had Albers who hadn't pitched yet, and Milone was still healthy and set to rejoin the pen after his spot start, plus Dean was rested and ready in AAA if needed.

     

    By Saturday, they had exhausted both Albers and Dean, and the injured Milone was no longer an option either.  (Of course, we've spent much of the season without a real "multi-inning guy", and whether O'Rourke is really an appropriate or worthwhile long reliever is a separate matter of debate...)

     

    While you are both correct that once Albers lost his "26th man" status, he had to clear optional assignment waivers to be optioned back to AAA, it wouldn't have made any practical difference.  He could be (and was) DFA'd before we requested optional assignment waivers, so he was no longer on the roster while we waited for him to clear said waivers.

    I think the only difference it made is Albers is subject to the 10-day non-injury recall rule for being on the 25th instead of 26th man (and I'm not even 100% sure that's true.)  I'd be more upset with Albers returning without someone being injured than I am about any consequences of the rule.

     

    This has been a great Inside Baseball discussion. But, is there any chance it's been based on mistaken information? Where did we get that Albers was DFA'ed? I think it started with this two word tweet from Berardino - "Albers designated". What if he misunderstood, and/or used a shorthand he didn't think would get parsed so literally?

     

    https://twitter.com/MikeBerardino/status/764313276528418820

     

    He was definitely DFA'd per the press release and confirmed by Jack Goin on this very message board. Goin is the head of the Twins analytic department in their Front Office. 

     

    He was definitely DFA'd per the press release and confirmed by Jack Goin on this very message board. Goin is the head of the Twins analytic department in their Front Office. 

    True story. I'm gonna blame the TD software that, when I clicked to see unread messages in this thread, I was taken instead to the most recent post and I missed Jack's post and everything else that came last night. Sorry for injecting doubt. True story.

    I've never been more proud while reading the comments/message board in all my life. Actual questions, actual suggestions to why moves were made, actual understanding (as best as we can) and discussion of trivial baseball rules. I've "liked" comments on this thread and I rarely click that button on any form of social media.

     

    But really, I think I'm just happy I'm not alone in thinking so much about something that doesn't matter.

    I have said elsewhere that the Twins are bizarre with how they handle Albers.

     

    They sell him to Korea.  OK, fine, they deem he's not good enough to play in the majors, even as a LOOGY.  I disagree, but I can respect their decision.  

     

    They trade for Tommy Milone, who is a slightly worse version of Albers.

     

    They bring Albers back rather than try something new.  If he was not good enough for the organization in the past, how could he be good enough now?  This means either sending him away was a mistake, or it means bringing him back was a mistake.

     

    They then promote him to the team rather than calling up a pitcher already on the roster but in the minors.  Then they immediately cut him in spite of having roster space.

     

    Whatever your opinion is of Albers' ability, the Twins are treating him very badly.  If he is not good enough for the Twins, he deserves some respect and the Twins should let him go.  The Twins are treating him like an expendable ex-girlfriend that they keep on the side.

    Edited by Doomtints

    I don't quite agree with all of that (Milone is not a worse version of Albers, for example), but I do agree that the Twins could have helped Albers much more by letting him seek another MLB opportunity after 2013, rather than cashing him in by selling him to Korea.  (I elaborated on this point in another recent Albers thread.)

     

    I don't really have a problem with how they've used him otherwise, assuming they don't recall him again this year.

     

    I don't quite agree with all of that (Milone is not a worse version of Albers, for example)

    I'm with you on this one. I'm about the furthest thing from a Tommy Milone fan, but I think he's got a role on a big league team ... preferably one I don't watch. Albers, however, I see no upside to having on a 40-man roster. He strikes me as the kind of guy you stash at AAA and call up if half of your MLB rotation is injured, along with the swing man, the AAA and AA pitchers on your 40-man and one of the other organizational fillers can't catch a flight.




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