Jim H Verified Member Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 My question is: what is an acceptable performance by the FA pitcher signings made by the Twins this winter? Most of the posters were excited by the signings, but what is the minimum performances that you are looking for from these guys. If I use Correia's performance in 2013 as sort of a standard, I would be happy with the following. If Nolasco can average somewhere in the high 20's for starts over the next 4 years, have 2 years slightly above the Correia Standard, 1 year near an Ace, and perhaps 1 year slightly below the Correia Standard, I will be happy. If Pelfrey can stay in the rotation all year in 2014 and pitch near 200 innings at anything above the Correia Standard and perhaps gets forced into the bullpen or on the trading in year 2 by emerging talent; I will be happy. If Hughes can remain in the rotation for 2 years, pitch above 160 innings each year, and is forced to the bullpen or the trade block by year 3, again by emerging young talent; I will be happy.
Chance Provisional Member Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 I will be happy if they pitch more than 5 innings a start. Shooting for 6 and 7 inning outings. Maybe a shoot out or 2 from Nolasco?
Craig Arko Old-Timey Member Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 Instead of 2013 Correia as the standard I'd prefer 2010 Pavano. If any of them match that level it would be great. If two of them match it, there may be some noise in Target Field.
diehardtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted February 2, 2014 Posted February 2, 2014 With Nolasco, I'm hoping for a sub 4 ERA in 30+ starts. I'm hoping Hughes and Pelfrey can be right around 4 in the same amount of starts. Biggest thing I want is that they all stay relatively healthy so we aren't calling up the PJ Walters of the world.
Willihammer Provisional Member Posted February 2, 2014 Posted February 2, 2014 I hope Nolasco and Peflrey stay out of crooked innings and throw into the 8th inning of games on a regular basis. Hughes belongs in the pen IMO, he's been a stud in that role. Barring that, I don't want to see him getting burned by home runs in the third trip through the order, esp. multi-run shots. Pull him at the first sign of trouble and maybe he can put together something like 150/4.00 each year. [TABLE=width: 500][TABLE=width: 308]HughesPAAB/HROPS1st PA in G as SP[TD=align: right]1186[TD=align: right]39.7[/TD][TD=align: right]0.717[/TD]2nd PA in G as SP[TD=align: right]1127[/TD][TD=align: right]22.6[/TD][TD=align: right]0.795[/TD]3rd PA in G as SP[TD=align: right]765[/TD][TD=align: right]18.3[/TD][TD=align: right]0.841[/TD][/TABLE][/TD][/TD][TD][/TABLE]
snepp Verified Member Posted February 2, 2014 Posted February 2, 2014 Maybe a shoot out or 2 from Nolasco? Haven't we seen enough shootouts over the last 3 years?
Guest USAFChief Guests Posted February 2, 2014 Posted February 2, 2014 Haven't we seen enough shootouts over the last 3 years? Yes, and what's worse is the Twins have been showing up to these shootouts with knives.
snepp Verified Member Posted February 2, 2014 Posted February 2, 2014 Yes, and what's worse is the Twins have been showing up to these shootouts with knives. http://guftahot.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/luis-rivas1.jpg "What's wrong with that?"
Guest USAFChief Guests Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 http://guftahot.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/luis-rivas1.jpg "What's wrong with that?"Bringing a knife to a gunfight? I can see a couple potential problems. Range being the most obvious.
jokin Old-Timey Member Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 http://guftahot.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/luis-rivas1.jpg "What's wrong with that?" Bringing a knife to a gunfight? I can see a couple potential problems. Range being the most obvious. Velocity being the other?
stringer bell Verified Member Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 In signing three major league starters, I think the days of sub-MLB level starters is over. The team is "blessed" with eight or nine third through fifth starters. Starting pitching depth shouldn't be a problem. Starting pitching quality--still a problem.
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