Heyman: Blue Jays, Dodgers, Giants Interested In Morneau

[diehardtwinsfan]

Not sure I get the nishioka part, unless he voluntarily voids his deal, they will be paying him next year, won't they? Maybe I misunderstand how that works.

You are correct, it was a guaranteed contract. The Twins could DFA him, but they are still on the hook for the contract. I'm guessing the "counting it" comes from whether or not it still applies to the payroll numbers.

[TheLeviathan]

Several of us didn't and tried in vain to inject some rationality into the discussion but it is a common human trait that allows emotional attachment to override logical reasoning.

The kool-aid was mighty strong.

[Guest USAFChief]

Screw what the return would be as far as prospects, the savings from not having to pay all of his contracts could apply to some much needed arms in the offseason.

You keep telling us In other threads the Twins should dump Morneau for nothing but salary relief, while simultaneously telling us the Twins won't, indeed shouldn't, invest in restocking the 2013 team.

 

And this is the third time I've called you on it.

 

Ill Ask again...are you a Pohlads grandchild worried about inheritance? Because there is no reason, none, to trade Morneau simply to reduce salary unless you're going to reinvest that money in the 2013 team. If you don't, it simply goes in the owners pockets.

 

For the record, selling Morneau low right now is an incredibly idiotic idea no matter how you look at it. Haven't we seen enough "sell low" mistakes from the Twins in recent history?

[Oxtung]

You keep telling us In other threads the Twins should dump Morneau for nothing but salary relief, while simultaneously telling us the Twins won't, indeed shouldn't, invest in restocking the 2013 team.

 

And this is the third time I've called you on it.

 

Ill Ask again...are you a Pohlads grandchild worried about inheritance? Because there is no reason, none, to trade Morneau simply to reduce salary unless you're going to reinvest that money in the 2013 team. If you don't, it simply goes in the owners pockets.

 

For the record, selling Morneau low right now is an incredibly idiotic idea no matter how you look at it. Haven't we seen enough "sell low" mistakes from the Twins in recent history?

In addition you have to be able to justify why 2013 so important. That money is coming off the books anyways in 2014. So you have to be able to show that there is something that occurs in 2013 that won't be available in 2014. Then that something has be worth more than 2014's equivalent plus Morneau's production plus the potential prospects we could get back which at this point could be something significant.

[Oxtung]

The kool-aid was mighty strong.

I don't blame you Leviathan. Like I said there are psychological studies that show humans overvalue things we know and undervalue those things that we are unfamiliar with. It is literally hardwired into the human brain.

[TheLeviathan]

I don't blame you Leviathan. Like I said there are psychological studies that show humans overvalue things we know and undervalue those things that we are unfamiliar with. It is literally hardwired into the human brain.

No way man, I've resisted - been right there with you. I was calling for us to trade him before the season started.

 

On the subject of this thread - dealing Morneau for pennies on the dollar is stupid. You either deal him to help the future or hope he gets it back together. Lately he sure looks good.

[YourHouseIsMyHouse]

Liriano and Morneau are the hottest trade targets that I don't/didn't want the Twins to trade. Send off Burton (hasn't allowed a run since June 10th) and Span while they have a ton of value. Not Justin and Frankie when they are close to their career lows!!

[YourHouseIsMyHouse]

Of course if the Blue Jays were willing to part with Syndergard for Morneau... then we're talking.

[robbie111]

I think it is a huge mistake to trade Justin, he's finally starting to figure out lefties again. At one point he was hitting in the .220's and has upped that to .263 while hitting above .315 the last 25 games. He also had a 17 game hitting streak recently and I think the Twins will get way less than he's worth back. I'll be so choked if he's in a BlueJays uniform next year hitting over .300 with 30 hrs and we're left with scrubs.

[Oxtung]

No way man, I've resisted - been right there with you. I was calling for us to trade him before the season started.

 

On the subject of this thread - dealing Morneau for pennies on the dollar is stupid. You either deal him to help the future or hope he gets it back together. Lately he sure looks good.

My apologies then. Thought I had gotten into it with you on another thread last week.