J-Dog Dungan Provisional Member Posted July 25, 2012 Author Posted July 25, 2012 Hopefully we can find a team that is being cut out of talks with other high-end arms to listen to us on a deal for Liriano that doesn't cut our pockets.
J-Dog Dungan Provisional Member Posted July 25, 2012 Author Posted July 25, 2012 Again according to MLBTR, the Braves are going to try and focus on Greinke after being rejected in the Dempster deal, and Greinke is said to admire the Angels and Braves, so if I had to guess at this point, I think Greinke goes either to the Angels or to the Braves.
PMKI Verified Member Posted July 25, 2012 Posted July 25, 2012 According to MLBTradeRumors "The Twins' asking prices for Morneau ("pricey"), Denard Span ("more pricey"), and Josh Willingham ("it made me laugh") are high. Minnesota insists they will listen on anyone and Stark says Morneau is the bat they're most likely to move. Francisco Liriano is "nearly 100 percent" likely to be traded."
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted July 25, 2012 Posted July 25, 2012 Easy for Stark to report without giving examples. By saying that, he is shielding the teams the Twins are in discussions with and the prospects/players in said discussions while undermining the Twins. Seems like pretty subjective reporting to me. Seems like all the other potential players on the move have at least one if not multiple teams attached to a possible trade. I wonder why we aren't hearing any teams mentioned in Twins trades aside from Danny Gladden's failed Pirates trade rumor.
Oxtung Verified Member Posted July 25, 2012 Posted July 25, 2012 Easy for Stark to report without giving examples. By saying that, he is shielding the teams the Twins are in discussions with and the prospects/players in said discussions while undermining the Twins. Seems like pretty subjective reporting to me.Do you really think that teams are reading Stark's writeup to find out what the Twins wish list is for our trade chips? More likely they'd just pick up the phone and asked TR what his asking price is then form an opinion of their own on how pricey that is. I don't see how this undermines the Twins in any way. Personally I think TR should be asking for a lot at this point. There are plenty of trade partners out there. As the trade market changes I hope he changes his asking price accordingly. Ultimately the Twins can keep Willingham, Span and Morneau with little issue. The only player that really is on the chopping block is Liriano and even there there is some wiggle room with a potential $12M QO this winter.
J-Dog Dungan Provisional Member Posted July 25, 2012 Author Posted July 25, 2012 Do you really think that teams are reading Stark's writeup to find out what the Twins wish list is for our trade chips? More likely they'd just pick up the phone and asked TR what his asking price is then form an opinion of their own on how pricey that is. I don't see how this undermines the Twins in any way. Personally I think TR should be asking for a lot at this point. There are plenty of trade partners out there. As the trade market changes I hope he changes his asking price accordingly. Ultimately the Twins can keep Willingham, Span and Morneau with little issue. The only player that really is on the chopping block is Liriano and even there there is some wiggle room with a potential $12M QO this winter.The reason that the Twins are asking a lot for Span, Willingham, and Morneau is that they are all under contract for at least the next year, if not two (not that they aren't or shouldn't be asking a lot for Liriano) and they don't have to be traded now to have good value. Honestly, the Twins could wait to trade S,W, & M until they have peak value, or just wait till next year.
Oxtung Verified Member Posted July 25, 2012 Posted July 25, 2012 The reason that the Twins are asking a lot for Span, Willingham, and Morneau is that they are all under contract for at least the next year, if not two (not that they aren't or shouldn't be asking a lot for Liriano) and they don't have to be traded now to have good value. Honestly, the Twins could wait to trade S,W, & M until they have peak value, or just wait till next year.How does that disagree in any way with what I wrote?
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted July 25, 2012 Posted July 25, 2012 Perhaps his colemn isn't subversive to the Twins cause, but I still find it awfully subjective reporting. He isn't saying that other GM's are telling him the players are "pricey", "more pricey" and "it made me laugh" those are his words, meaning he knows who the Twins have talked to and who they have asked for but won't let the readers decide for themselves because he's shielding these GM's. These GM's wouldn't be anonymously be leaking this info to Stark unless they wanted it public that they think the Twins need to accept less than their current asking price.
J-Dog Dungan Provisional Member Posted July 26, 2012 Author Posted July 26, 2012 Just recently on MLBTR, an article from David Kaplan of CSNChicago.com says that the Dodgers and Cubs are working towards a deal for Dempster that might include another team.
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