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Twins Daily 2020 Top Prospects: #7 Ryan Jeffers
rdehring replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I am happy that Jeffers has made these improvements, yet, scratching my head when I see him at #7 and Rortvedt not in your top 20. Was not Rortvedt the first promoted from A to AA last spring? Is not Rortvedt the better defensive catcher insofar as throwing out runners and controlling the running game? Is not Rortvedt the superior catcher as far as blocking the ball in the dirt? Although he doesn't have Jeffers power, wasn't Rortvedt hiting very well prior to his knee injury? Not saying that Jeffers hasn't improved more than any Twin in his draft class. Just find it puzzling that he is #7 and Rortvedt is nowhere to be seen. The one thing I keep seeing is everyone raving about his pitch framing. I know that is the current in thing for rating catchers defense these days. Well, that is going to go away when big league baseball goes to robo umps in a few years and framing will add zero value. Perhaps then we can get back to rating catchers on values of the past, blocking balls, throwing out runners and handling their pitchers. -
The effect of this trade will not be known for some time. First, who is the low level prospect coming to the Twins. Low level doesn't mean he isn't a good prospect. Second, trading Raley opens a spot on the 40-man, but more important means one less spot is occupied come November when there are going to be several good prospects going unprotected in the Rule 5 draft. And finally, taking Graterol out of this year's bullpen creates an opening. Will that opening be used like last year when Thorpe-Smeltzer-Dobnak rotated through Target Field giving the Twins valuable long relief innings while gaining experience in the big leagues?
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Brusdar Graterol's Strange Journey: What Did We Learn?
rdehring replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
It is probably time that ballclubs work hard to keep terms of trades silent until they are ready to announce a done deal. This week was total chaos and sure as he..ck took a toll on one young man. Understand that Graterol moving from starter to likely reliever reduces his value. But he can still throw the ball like very few on this planet. If another part needed to be added, adding Raley is a good choice as it would be difficult for him to find a spot on the Twins this year or beyond. As much as Maeda doesn't seem like that 'impact' pitcher everyone was looking for over the winter, he is very solid with a reasonable contract for the next four years. Don't like trading away the #67 pick. Hopefully, the low level minor league player coming back will offset that. Low level means he is young, doesn't mean he isn't a good prospect...at least I hope he is. And I can't calculate why the $10,000,000 was included in the deal, and what it means. -
Twins Daily 2020 Top Prospects: #8 SS Keoni Cavaco
rdehring replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Don't know what to think about Cavaco, Seth. It is correct that the Twins took him higher than a lot of people thought at draft time, isn't it? And I don't recall any first pick of ours doing this poorly in his first exposure to professional ball. I understand everything you have written about his tools. But having the tools doesn't always mean a young player will be a success. There may be lots of circumstances related to his poor performance. But it was so bad it was more than disappointing, at least to me. So for me, ranking him #8 is too high, way too high. But he is a young Twin, so I remain hopeful he becomes the type of player the Twins drafted and proves me wrong.- 37 replies
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My thoughts exactly. Really don't like the #67 pick going to LA. We saw what years of trading draft picks did to the Wild. Although being aggressive in the International market can somewhat offset losing a high pick. Is there any information on the second player the Twins are getting? Is it fact that there will be a second player?
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Twins Daily 2020 Top Prospects: #9 Brent Rooker
rdehring replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
What will be interesting is to see who gets the call if Sano spends any time on the IL. Will it be Rooker? Or will it be Kirilloff. Doubt they would bring Kirilloff north if Sano was injured for opening day. But a month or two later, could be either. -
Twins Daily 2020 Top Prospects: #9 Brent Rooker
rdehring replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Thanks ExPat. When you saw him, was he at first base or in the outfield? -
Twins Daily 2020 Top Prospects: #9 Brent Rooker
rdehring replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Didn't know what to expect when drafted. To be honest, he has performed better than I expected. Still don't know what we have. Rather than going down, will the strikeouts increase when he faces major league pitching? As blindeke asks above, how bad is his defense? Expect we will learn a lot more this year and if he is the studious hard worker and improves a bit in both areas of concern, may be another big bat. Just don't know where he will fit with the Twins this year or beyond. I know everyone keeps assuming the DH spot will be open in 2021. What if Nelson has a repeat performance of 2019, does he return on a one year contract? I sure as heck would hope so. -
Graterol Trade On Hold? Valuing Starters and Relievers
rdehring replied to John Bonnes's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Why does everyone keep wanting to trade Thorpe. I see him as the answer to one of our pitching problems for the next 6++ years, beginning in April of this year.- 133 replies
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Graterol Trade On Hold? Valuing Starters and Relievers
rdehring replied to John Bonnes's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Because the Twins are from Minnesota, ya know "Minnesota Nice."- 133 replies
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Graterol Trade On Hold? Valuing Starters and Relievers
rdehring replied to John Bonnes's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
If the Twins part of this deal does unwind and Graterol remains a Twin, I can't wait until we play the Sox at Fenway. I want Graterol to close two of the three wins, hitting 105 on the radar gun and never being less than 102. Sit'em down with nine pitches both nights!- 133 replies
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Twins Daily 2020 Top Prospects: #10 RHP Blayne Enlow
rdehring replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
If memory serves, I recall hearing comments when drafted as the best curveball in the draft. So like many, I got all excited about this young phenom who would be wreaking havoc on hitters at Target Field in a few years. In reality, becoming a good pitcher takes time. And that seems like what this kid is doing, putting in the work, getting better and moving up. Hopefully, that path will continue and we can see him dominate AL hitters a few years from now. And Seth, I absolutely hate that new name for our Fort Myers franchise. -
Graterol Trade On Hold? Valuing Starters and Relievers
rdehring replied to John Bonnes's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Was wondering when learned of this trade if all the moving parts would clear physical exams. Hopefully, the Twins don't sweeten the deal with a second player who has a lot of value or replace Graterol with either Balazovic or Duran. Should the deal unwind and Graterol remain with the Twins, don't know right off hand if that is good or not. If healthy, there is a lot to like about Graterol. Also means that one of the opening day starting spots will definitely be manned by one of the young guns. To be honest, I like that. So I guess we need to stay tuned.- 133 replies
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Had dinner tonight with my sister and brother-in-law. Until they recently moved from L.A. to the desert, they had been long time Dodger season ticket holders. When I asked if they were aware of the trade, they were not. When I told them about Maeda going to the Twins, they both were shocked. They are just fans who attended most of the games, however, felt he was one of their favorite players.
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When I first heard this last night, I was disappointed. Part of that is that I had never heard of Maeda. And part was my dream that Graterol could be either that long sought ACE or a shut down closer, at a minimum.Now that I have learned some about Maeda and had an evening to sleep on it, I am less disappointed. I continue to ask myself two questions. If Falvine thought it was likely that Graterol could become a top line starter, would they have made this trade? I think not. Had they thought he could become a shutdown closer, would they have made this trade? Maybe they would, but more likely not. After my rationalization of the situation, it seems that Falvine probably don't think as highly of Graterol as me and I expect many of you. If that is the case, this trade takes on a more favorable light.
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There is a follow up move resulting from this trade, Seth. With the addition of Maeda, the Twins now have six solid veteran starters...Berrios, Odorizzi, Pineda, Hill, Bailey and Maeda. And although a longer shot, Chacin makes a potential seven. And that doesn't include the three young guns who were promising last fall, Dobnak, Thorpe and Smeltzer. With ten potential starters, after Pineda and Hill return, the Twins will have an extra arm or two come July. Have to believe they can flip a rental, say Bailey or a healthy Hill or a revitalized Chacin for a few promising prospects. So I see the Twins getting four years of Maeda, plus another prospect or two along the lines of those they obtained in July, 2018.
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At first glance, don't like it. Doesn't seem like the top arm the Twins should be getting if Graterol is included in a package. Hopefully, management knows that Graterol won't be that ACE starter they so badly need. If that proves to be true, guess this is ok. Just would have liked someone coming back who is both better and younger.
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Twins Daily 2020 Top Prospects: 16-20
rdehring replied to Tom Froemming's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
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Twins Daily 2020 Top Prospects: 16-20
rdehring replied to Tom Froemming's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
You guys at TD do such a great job with the minor leagues, especially these rankings. Some of us older guys really appreciate it...thanks! After reading this today, went back and looked at the Honorable Mention. Can't believe that Dobnak and Rortvedt aren't among your Twins Top 20. Personally believe that Mr. Dobnak is gonna make believers of a lot of people when he spends 2020 as a starter for the Twins. And this group is #16-20? Guessing that at least two have the potential to someday be Top 5. Can see most of these five as bottom of the Top 10 for most organizations or the Twins several years ago. So thankful that this FO is sticking to their business plan to develop a minor league pipeline that should keep the Twins competitive for a long time. Now lets hope like he..ck that their pipeline continues sending exciting young pitchers to the Twins this year. -
Did we realize what we had all those years with Nathan coming out of the pen for the 9th inning? I don't have a vote, but he would be in for me. And speaking of Nathan. Every time Zach Littell enters a game I think of Nathan. Just something about him causes me to think if it is possible that Littell can become the Twins current day Joe Nathan. Sure would be nice, wouldn't it?
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Expect Thorpe to be a starting pitcher for the Twins for a long time, beginning in 2020. After all the analysis there is one thing we must remember. This kid is young and missed two entire years of development to injury/illness. Really, we should be shocked that he was with the Twins last year. Given another year or two to gain experience, this kid is going to be good, very good. As for Dobnak. No reason he should be anything better than a AAAA pitcher, except for the results he keeps putting up. I see him as a bulldog and those type of guys can surprise everyone with their success. Don't know which, but I expect one of the two will be pitching so well that they won't be able to take him out of the rotation when Hill returns.
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Don't know which two of the three will get the early season starts, but expect that one will do so well the Twins will have to keep him in the rotation once Pineda and Hill are both back. Maybe both will do so well that they will end up trading a veteran at the deadline. Package Bailey with one of the blocked outfielders for a very good prospect down in A ball.

