So based on that, would everyone agree that there is at least some merit to the position that Lannan and Marcum would probably be an upgrade even of they hit only half of the incentives, say roughly 175 innings and 2 starts? What jokin is saying makes sense to me, assuming that Correia is as bad as people are saying. On the other hand, I have high hopes for Worley as someone who could be very good for years to come if he can improve his "out" pitch. And Pelfry could turn out to be a big contributor for a year, a total bust or something in between. Only one thing seems certain -- we won't know which side was correct for at least another few months.