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But it is. Yell that to your coworker in an office and you're going to get nailed for sexual harassment. And it does not have to be done in the workplace or to a coworker for it to still apply. Harassment is usually done repeatedly, but it doesn't have to be. Here's the definition per a dictionary: "uninvited and unwelcome verbal or physical behavior of a sexual nature." It is all the things you say, but it's also sexual harassment.

This is my feeling too. I don't want them to give out a six year deal, but I do want Darvish here for years 1-4. Years 5 and 6 may suck, but years 1-4 could make it completely worth it. Front load it a bit and bite the bullet.

Wasn't sure where to put this, so I'm putting it here. Saw Rob Neyer RT it and I had never read it before. Its very good, in my opinion. It's over a month old now.

Right. It is a fine line, but I hope no one thinks drugs or alcohol excuses the bad behavior. If someone can't control themselves when under the influence, that is still a choice they made to partake in the drugs/alcohol. That and "boys will be boys" needs to be launched into the sun. We all have to be better and we have to hold others to that same standard (like don't let our friend keep obviously harassing a girl who has no interest). Just FYI, was not saying you were making excuses. Just pointing out that it can be used as one and it should not be.

same to you. I don't consider it "ignoring it" and maybe that's where we differ. If someone comes to me and confided in me an assault that happened to them, it is not my place to go run to the police or anyone else if they do not want me to. And it's not a case where I'm worried about losing that friendship. That's not the reason why I wouldn't say anything. If I only had the courage to tell certain people and I tell them not to do or say anything about it then my expectation is that. And they shall get the same thing from me when the situation is reversed. If someone went and told my story I would be mad and would wish I would have never told that person and some trust would certainly be lost, good intentions or not. And again, for me, it's not about caring or worrying about losing the friendship. It takes courage to tell even one person. And I don't personally feel it's my right, or even my obligation, as you put it, to go to anyone with that story if I'm told to not do it. It's a respect thing in my eyes. That may sound stupid but that's how I see it. Whether a person goes to the police or not, it never goes away, as you said. Even if a person is convicted and spends time in jail, the victim still has to deal with the pain for the rest of their lives whether the person was punished or not. If I'm someone they have confided in, I don't want to add more pain to an already painful situation. That's why I don't believe a friend or family member is obligated to speak up.

i would put murder under a different category. Neither is a good thing, obviously. Murder is definitely something that people will more than likely speak up about. Whether they are "obligated" is hard to say. Me personally, if murder is involved I'd speak up. I don't think, in an assault case, the victim or anyone else who knew (not talking witnesses, but friends) are obligated to say anything. The choice is up to the victim in that case. This type of thing has happened a lot in the last few months, victims confiding in people and those people keeping it to themselves because that's what the victim wants. There should be nothing wrong in doing that. They are protecting and supporting someone they know/love/care about.

I don't believe I did. You said that anyone who knew has a moral obligation to report so it doesn't happen to anyone else. My point is they do not have to do anything. If it happens again, it's the perpetrator's fault. Not anyone else's. It is completely unfair to force that kind of weight and guilt onto another person. Sure, they may feel it themselves along with any other feelings but they certainly do not have to say a word. There is no such obligation. None of this is meant to be a personal attack on you, I want that to be clear, but as the poster above me said it comes off as victim blaming (or blaming others vs blaming the perp). I would think, and hope, that's not your intention but that's how a lot of posts read.

If it has happened again, the blame is on perpetrator. Nick, or anyone else, did not make the perpetrator do this or anything in the future. They do not control another persons arms, mouth or mind. I guess for me, I'll never understand why it's easier to blame the victim or anyone they may have confided in rather than to blame the perpetrator who did this future hypothetical act.

No we don't know what all was said, but she said that she said no. And if Sano, or anyone who does this kind of thing, interprets no as meaning yes then there is something wrong with them. And the way they interact with people needs to change.

Im sure there are witnesses, but will they tell the truth? That's also the problem in this. People are quick to say she's lying but a witness can also lie as well. That's what is unfortunate. Who do you believe? We do not need people committing these kind of acts and then getting away with them. I hope there is footage in the loading dock, because it really is her best chance. The problem with that is, most people are saying no one would even keep the footage for more than a couple of months. That hurts her, but she said she's not trying to get anything out of this. She's actually putting herself completely on the line here because she could be sued. I have a hard time believing it's not true because of all of the bad things that can happen to her, some of those things already are. It's not worth it if it's made up.

This is the part I have a problem with that makes Sano seem dumber than he actually is just because he's not from here. Saying no and pulling away means the same thing in any language. No means the same thing in Spanish as it does in English so that's where this starts to fall apart. And how can trying to get away mean anything other than "trying to get away or "stop" or "get away from me"? How can that be interpreted in any culture as "please, do it more. I like it." If you hit on a woman constantly and she does not reciprocate then you are harassing her. Whether it's sexual harassment or regular harassment, it is still harassment. This isn't a "hi, how are you." She said he hit on her many times. This was unwanted. That is harassment. Men need to learn to stop doing this. It's not okay.

See I think this is part of the problem. I've seen for months now other men saying: "man, I can't even talk to a woman now without it being sexual harassment." "Better not ask her for her number or if she wants to have a drink...it's now sexual harassment." Where is this coming from?! What women are saying asking a person out once is sexual harassment? I've seen zero instances of this happening. If a man is questioning if he can even talk to a woman anymore then to me that's way more telling. Either you're creepy or you're not. And you should certainly know the difference. If someone has to question how they interact with other people than they are likely not acting appropriately and some part of them knows it. What someone may think of as idiotic is considered scary to a woman. Why do we think it's romantic when we hear stories of a guy repeatedly asking a woman to go out for years? She's saying no for a reason. And then the men are proud when the woman finally give in and says yes. They likely gave in because they were tired of being constantly harassed. Why are men not stopping? This is not cute. Why do we teach girls they need to cover up because it gives boys bad thoughts? As a guy, I've never been told to cover up because girls will have bad thoughts. Why does this double standard exist? Why are women afraid to walk alone at night? Why are they taught that they should have their keys out and ready to get in their car quickly if they need to? Why are they also taught that they should put one of those keys between two of their fingers to protect themselves if necessary? I've never had to do or worry about any of this as a man. I could be attacked too, but it's not a fear that's constantly in the back of my mind. Why do young boys who sleep with a teacher get a high five? Why is it not the same for girls? Both times are equally wrong. Why are women considered sluts and men considered studs when they've been with a lot of people? Why do men think it's okay to compliment a woman's body or what she's wearing, especially in the workplace? If a straight man wouldn't say it to a male coworker then why are they saying it to the female coworker? She's not there to be sexualized. She's there to work. And if a man would say it to both, again, that's still being creepy and harassing the person if you do it repeatedly. Why do father's/brothers "jokingly" say that their daughter/sister needs to be locked in a closet/bedroom for thirty years in order to keep them away from boys/men. Or say "they've got guns" as a threat to the boy, serious or not. Never heard a man say this about his son/brother. This is something I've even said. I do not have a sister or kids (nor do I want any). We know why.

The problem is, even if she reported it right away, these same people would still call her a liar. That's sadly how these things go. The victim is always to blame because the person we watch on tv couldn't have possibly done this. Telling that five former teammates/current teammates/people who know Sano said they are not surprised Sano has been accused. Jeff Passan article. Also an usher for the Lookouts said they had to keep female ushers away from the dugout because of Sano.

i don't have the link, but I've seen it posted elsewhere that it's a false 6% of the time. So, I'd say it's pretty rare when it happens. Think of how many thousands upon thousands of cases there are and 95% of them are true. Seems easier to me to not jump to the "she's lying" accusations (not saying you are, but a whole ton of people are). I've seen people bring up the names of five guys who were falsely accused and because of those five guys it means every woman is lying. There are people saying that. That's wrong.

ssshhhh

Are her family and other friends an accomplice too? She told them right away. If something is told to you, in confidence, you usually keep it to yourself while supporting them. Some circumstances may change that, but I don't think that applies here. It was her story to tell and if she didn't want anyone else to do or say anything about it then that is her right.

She did not work for the Twins. She would be a credentialed photographer for TD when she was in the target field photo well. That's great if that's how you would react, but that's not how everyone reacts. Plus it is already harder for women to get respect in jobs, without this kind of stuff. She wanted to continue doing what she loved and feared she would lose that if she spoke up. A lot of people feel this way, even men.

http://www.startribune.com/twins-agree-to-terms-with-veteran-lefthander-zach-duke/466503343/ "Duke will sign a major league contract. The Twins currently have one open spot on their 40-man big-league roster."

Yes. And they may have signed Zach Duke as well. https://twitter.com/meatsauce1/status/945349274853871616 He's broken many Twins signings, including Rodney, so no reason to believe it's false at this point. Hopefully Duke is a minor league deal, otherwise someone is definitely gone soon if they plan to sign/trade for anyone else.

i don't want Napoli, but if they do sign him I hope he's better at hitting lefties than he was last year. Last year he couldn't hit anything.

I recall similar words being said deep into the Dozier rumors last year. That led to nothing, which was probably a good thing. I want Darvish so I hope it's not a similar result.

I would assume he's talking about club record FA dollars, as that's what was written in a previous article before today's. So basically old and obvious news. Because of course he's going to get a bigger contract than Santana did. From an article five days ago: "How the Twins react when/if Darvish asks for six years and $140 million-$150 million — which would easily be a club record for a free agent — will be the test of their willingness to dive into the deep waters of free agency to add top talent." Again the words club record mentioned. I think in the article today, it was implied that he meant FA dollars based on this article. And I know there was one other which directly mentioned the Santana contract. So I'm 99% sure he did not mean 200 million.

The Twins were in on Smyly before the Cubs signed Smyly and before the Twins signed Pineda. That's what that says. They pivoted to Pineda once Smyly chose the Cubs.

I'm not getting my hopes up for Darvish, but I hope it happens. I saw on twitter that there was a Japanese article calling the Cubs the favorite. This is the supposed article: https://twitter.com/nikkansports/status/941765707427037184 Nikkan Sports were also the first ones to report that Ohtani had narrowed his list way down (they said five teams and some of the teams were not accurate). Turned out to be seven teams. So hopefully they're not as accurate on this either.

I think people are just trying to think realistically. We don't know where this team will be in one year let alone four. We hope they extend some of the young core, but right now we only talk about them in terms of absolutes. They are FA in 2022 and we can't think otherwise until it happens. It would be nice to have a surprise player or players, but we can't count on it happening. The window doesn't need to close, and we hope it doesn't, but we can't say it won't either.