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  1. KirbyDome89
    Nope not at all. Of course not all prospects work out, but I don't know where anybody is banking on a majority of them to hit their ceiling. Prospects aren't lottery tickets; meaning they don't all carry the same chance for success. Higher end guys like Gonsalves, Romero, and Gordon are going to be the starting point to acquire a starting pitcher at the deadline. Unless they can somehow find get a front of the rotation guy with multiple years of team control (very unlikely) I'm not in favor of giving up what little high end talent this team has in AA. That doesn't mean I don't want them to get better, or do nothing, but improving the team doesn't have to mean giving up young arms for a rental. Every young player that makes up the core of this team will be here after 2020. Barring injuries I can't see players like Buxton, Sano, Kepler, Berrios, or Polanco getting worse over the next few seasons so no, I'm not concerned about future performance. I get the "future isn't promised," argument, but making decisions that only involve "NOW," and where they are in the standings today is how half steps are made. One of the loudest (and legitimate) complaints over the past few seasons has centered around how directionless this organization has looked. Nobody is rooting for more time that this team can't contend, but a shot at a wild card loss or a first round sweep isn't worth what a rental is going to cost.
  2. KirbyDome89
    I'll echo Mike and say that I don't think anybody enjoys watching bad baseball for 6+ seasons. Rebuilds are ugly and the process can unfortunately be long. Some teams are far better at doing them effectively (Hello Houston and Chicago.) We're finally seeing a foundation forming after a delayed start to the process. To get to this stage and then start selling off prospects for rentals/a chance to drag a seriously flawed team into the playoffs this season is the equivalent of buying the cheapest materials you can in a rush to finish the project. If the goal is a sustained window of contention, which I believe it is, then I can be patient. That said if the trade talks revolve around bringing in a starter with multiple years of team control I'm all ears. The Twins are likely going to have to make significant trades to improve the pitching staff. Barring some miracle, the Pohlad's piggy bank isn't breaking open and this team isn't spending real money in FA to improve the front end of the rotation.
  3. KirbyDome89
    You should.... Another starting pitcher and a starting corner outfielder would be huge right now.
  4. KirbyDome89
    The same way I felt when the trade was announced. They traded a bad pitcher for one who was supposed to be slightly less bad. I was all for that move. The issue I had was that they gave up a guy who before the Twins got a hold of him was a top pitching prospect in order for the Angels to agree to a cash neutral deal. Hoping the Twins would move on from Nolasco didn't mean I wanted them to give away pitching talent to make it happen.
  5. KirbyDome89
    Christmas in July
  6. KirbyDome89
    They actually aren't saving any money either. They're paying LA $4 million of Nolasco's salary and when you add that to the $8 million contract they tendered to Santiago the two are basically a wash.
  7. KirbyDome89
    Disclaimer: I'm on board with the first couple picks but wasn't thrilled with the "Reach for Leach," (I think I'll copyright that) move. My issue with these arguments is the use of TR as some sort of Boogeyman. It was time was for him to go and I'm glad the Twins made a change, but he was far from the only issue in the organization. A large number of people who also contributed to the dismal drafting/developing/signing of players are still here. Does that mean they're destined to continue the streak of poor performance? No, but I can certainly understand why that is a concern. Ultimately the draft decisions ran through TR, but those same scouts and development staff who provided him with their own data/professional opinions are doing the same for Falvine. Their past failures are relevant. They shouldn't have to wear them as a dunce cap but they shouldn't be forgotten simply because the ear they're whispering into has changed. The first day of the draft was disappointing. Not everybody may feel that way, but it's unfortunately the overwhelming feeling at this point. Things can change with a couple high upside picks above slot in the 3rd and 4th round, and hopefully they do.
  8. KirbyDome89
    I'm not expecting them to come out and say "Hey guys we really f***ed this up," but they'll need to provide some explanation for signing under slot and then reaching in the 2nd round.
  9. KirbyDome89
    You have to think they were sniped. Saving the $$$ isn't necessarily a bad thing but waiting to use it until day 2 makes no sense. Lots of questions. It'll be interesting to see how many answers the Twins provide...
  10. KirbyDome89
    Basically the same range of emotions here. I was cool with Lewis 1-1 and assumed they either saw McKay/Greene/Lewis as equals talent wise, or they viewed Lewis as the best overall. The Rooker pick might have been a small reach but still an exciting pick and apparently they saved more cash. The Leach pick was when I started wondering WTF was going on. That one was disappointing to say the least....
  11. KirbyDome89
    If Lewis didn't sign under slot then that must be the case. I'm OK with it, I want them to draft whomever they believe is the best player. If that isn't the rationale and Lewis indeed signed under slot then odd might be too gentle of a descriptor.
  12. KirbyDome89
    Agree 100% on the first paragraph. Yeah, we should probably wait to see who they take with the supplemental picks and hear some rationale for the moves made.
  13. KirbyDome89
    Why wouldn't he? If the Twins were offering less than he stood to make signing in the 2-7 range it's a smart decision on his part.
  14. KirbyDome89
    I need to see what they do with that extra $$$ before passing too much judgement on the pick....relieved it wasn't McKay though
  15. KirbyDome89
    This draft has nothing to do with football or fantasy.
  16. KirbyDome89
    For me it is in the context of strategy. I would rather they sign the best player at 1-1 regardless of how much of their allotment it uses up.
  17. KirbyDome89
    Thanks for ruining my day....
  18. KirbyDome89
    Greene...then Gore if he'll sign under slot. The association of Wright with "safe," scares me and I'm not terribly high on McKay as anything other than a mid to back end rotation piece. If they go with one of the college pitchers and save some $$$ for picks later in the round I can understand it but short of that it'll be disappointing for me if they take one of those two guys.
  19. KirbyDome89
    We'll disagree on the first sentence and agree on the last paragraph.
  20. KirbyDome89
    Both are theoretical scenarios. A return for Santana exists, the question is whether the Twins can make a deal happen. The same goes for all the above pitching scenarios and whether they work out in the Twins favor.
  21. KirbyDome89
    Who are they signing in FA to solidify this staff? How long does Ervin pitch like a Cy Young candidate? Are we counting on him to pitch like this at 36 years of age in 2019? Which direction does Mejia go? Hughes and Gibson may potentially have to contribute as starters? Romero and Gonsalves haven't spent a full season at AA yet but one may be starting the season with the Twins? The questions and uncertainty that are causing a break down are abundant on both sides.
  22. KirbyDome89
    When did I claim to know something that everybody else doesn't? Can you quote that one for me too while you're searching for the quote about bringing back front end prospects? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you realize just how drastically Santana is outperforming his career numbers. I shouldn't have to explain why that makes him a prime candidate for regression. That in no way is a downfall for the argument to trade him. In fact, it's a strong reason to seek out a trade. The major league staff has seriously issues. It isn't an assumption to say that this organization has refused to spend big money in FA and the pitching pipeline in the minor league system is underwhelming. Those two FACTS don't leave many other options for acquiring the pitching the Twins need.
  23. KirbyDome89
    Personally I think amateurism is when you falsify other posts to form an argument. Still waiting on that quote where I said they'd get 2 frontline starters btw.... I just told you it was sarcasm. I know you're not high on Santiago, which is why I found it amusing that a big part of the rotation righting itself and making the playoffs involves him turning his season around. So just throw in the towel on trading anybody and just chug along with a dumper fire of a staff? That's the solution? They can ignore obvious issues because hey, maybe they'll "get lucky," every year and make a playoff push. I mean once you're in "ya never know," right? He was a utility player his entire time in NY and the same in 2015 for the Twins. The number of seasons he spent as a bench player greatly outnumber the 1.5 seasons he has started. "Then trying to trade the remaining prospects (out of 4 SS and 4 MLB Top 100-potential arms) with them for "established, solid and cost-controlled pitchers" to bolster the current pitching depth." That sounds like attempting to dump the farm to me.... All the front end starters you would trade for fit the description of a rental. Yes I know, all prospects are created the same, they're all huge risks and lottery tickets. Also, all veteran players are safe investments, they can be counted on to perform at an expected level, and they're all immune to regression.
  24. KirbyDome89
    I literally just responded to another post that advocated trading the farm for a rental. You don't let the fact that a team is overachieving blind you to the improvements that need to be made. I'm saying the same thing I did in the OP. Getting a couple pitchers who have a legitimate chance to post a career ERA+ of 103 isn't inconceivable. Nowhere did I say they both had to be MLB ready, they would have front of the rotation potential, or they would be "alright." So teams don't overpay at the deadline now? Look, I would be thrilled if they did start actually utilizing FA, and I get that everybody is excited because it's a new FO and "you never know," but it's still the same ownership cutting the checks. We've never seen this team willing to spend big in FA, and so far the moves this FO has made don't suggest a drastic change is in the cards. Admittedly it's their first season and spending in FA can (and hopefully will) change, but I'm not holding my breath on the Twins going after elite talent in that market.
  25. KirbyDome89
    Isn't ignoring weaknesses because "they're winning and their luck hasn't run out yet," a big part of the disaster that was last season? This team would be much better off if they addressed problems early instead of waiting until the need to do so became painfully obvious. You refuted it? Why the consternation over trading him? If you think he'll continue to pitch like he is I can at least understand the desire to keep him, but if you're agreeing that he is prime for regression then why the uproar at the prospect of a trade? If he regresses, as you believe, what little chance this team does have to be competitive in the postseason, let along make it there, is gone. So why hold onto him?
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