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I actually did a search on the word ‘hater’ … no one has called you that or labeled you that. That label is on you trying to defend your opinions. As for being called a bot, that was dealt with by another moderator, and yes, name calling isn’t allowed. What so many here fail to realize is their opinions aren’t the law, they aren’t more right than someone else’s, no matter how strongly you feel about them. People are allowed to dislike Rocco and to be critical of him, others are allowed to disagree. But when many game threads digress into everything is Rocco’s fault, well, you are going to get disagreement. It’s not as easy as that, imho. Players have to execute. A manager has to have good players to turn to. I have been critical of the FO before in their construction of the BP. I’ve gone so far as to say it might even be more important to have ‘lights out, shut’em down’ relievers than it is to have one ace starter. Does the manager affect the outcome? Sure. Personally, I don’t think it’s as often as you and some others claim. The responsibility lies mostly with the players to execute. We’ve heard many player interviews say they know what their roles are going to be each game, so, do it. But if you don’t have the players to do it, that’s on the FO. My biggest gripe with the manager is he has a script and he follows it. If he didn’t, we’d have someone who would. And many wouldn’t like that manager any better. But stop playing victim here. You aren’t one. You share your opinions, some I agree with, some I don’t. Some others agree with, some others don’t. All we ask of posters on this site is to be respectful of one another and those on the field. You don’t have to like anyone, you can be critical all you want, disagree with others all you want, but you have proven to be smart enough to form good points and rebuttals, so don’t resort to easy labels of others or yourself. And that goes for everyone. Losing sucks. And I agree the Twins need to win more games that are winnable. But I don’t think that’s on the manager as much as you do. Players have to execute. And if they aren’t up to the task, the FO needs to find those who are. And yes, the manager has to manage that. It’s a team sport. It’s on everyone. i didn’t see the game last night, was following, loosely, on gameday because I was mostly otherwise occupied. I saw the score when it was 5-3 Twins. Great. We’re doing something right against a team I think is better. Then I saw the final and saw 4 runs in Okert’s line. Ugh. Of course it’s Okert. I wish they had sent him down long ago … I think he has an option left? But now, ugh, just DFA already is my opinion. Move Varland to the pen already. I don’t know what else at this point.

Disappointing loss to say the least. Lots of blame to go around. Lots to dislike in the events of the day. But name calling, bickering, dismissive behavior, disrespect are not answers to that. We have opinions. Like or dislike the manager, fine. Disagree all you want, fine. But bring your A-game to the table. Stop calling each other haters and apologists as a means to justify your arguments or discredit another’s.

Lololol!

Twins pitcher is listed as tbd, but we know it’s going to be Zebby! Here’s to a great debut!🥂

It’s not a must win, because we won’t be eliminated if we don’t and I think it’s hyperbolic to say ‘must.’ But I do think we need to win it because I think we do.

Yeah, seriously

There was warming up going on in the outfield while this was happening. I don’t think that’s rude. I think everyone on that field that was part of the ceremony understands and expects this because they were all there once upon a time

Total scapegoat move. I mean, total scapegoat move.

Yep

Well, you’re pretty old so I question your in person eyesight

He’s also not fast

In person he played it right

I don’t know if any of you follow Trevor May, but he does a great job talking baseball. Saw this clip today on Santana: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C-X-hjlSiwg/?igsh=bGtwNXhvbGtsZG1o

Peter, I’ve lived in Chicago for more than 24 yrs now, 21 of those downtown. It’s fine. Of course, I’m the one committing all the crimes, so I’m good

Not to worry, Peter. Remember, they are at the friendly confines. Everyone will be sweet as pie to them

Why?

The Cubs are not the same caliber team the Mets are. Still, gotta play good to win, so hoping for the best.

Let’s make it 20 in a row for the Sox! Go Twins!

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Yeah, that makes the most sense. Placeholder for Topa; and to give Dobbers one last tryout ... he was doing well in AAA, so ... see what he has until ... then dfa once again.

I don't think that was the plan ... and he isn't now. He got up to pitch the 9th.

Duran was coming into the game at some point regardless. That's what they said earlier in the broadcast.

This makes sense. Also, Dobnak has been doing pretty well of late, so maybe in piggy back/long relief it might be okay?

Goodness, get your trolling under control.

This is just a weird comp, and used to promote a fallacy. Nolan Ryan is almost in a league by himself with who he was. It also is truly a different era. And no, it’s not about protecting salaries, at least not directly. There are lots of recent studies/articles out there today about how damaging the current way of pitching is to pitchers, with higher velocities and spin rates. You could toss your pitchers out there for 100+ day in and day out but you are then going to have a lot of pitchers on the 60-IL. No team has the capacity to replace that. You will also shorten a pitcher’s career to abuse them like that, something no one wants, as yes, that does have salary, contract and earnings consequences. Plus, if you bothered to listen to any reports yesterday from the team, and in Baldelli’s post-game, which you obviously didn’t because it was the first thing he addressed, Ober was not well yesterday. They weren’t even for certain he would even be able to pitch. Many of you just want to lump each and every outing into the same because you’re oh so sad and emotional it’s not how things were and not what you want because you know better. Each and every outing has a different set of circumstances. Unfortunately, our emotional states seem not to allow for any nuanced thought.