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  1. I posted this before but here are the starting pitchers the BBWAA has elected since 1990 - Jim Palmer, Fergie Jenkins, Gaylord Perry, Tom Seaver, Steve Carlton, Nolan Ryan, Don Sutton, Phil Niekro, Blyleven, Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Pedro, Big Unit. That's an incredible list of all-time greats. Seaver, Unit, Maddux, Niekro and Blyleven are all top 10 all time in pWAR. Carlton and Pedro each had two of the all-time seasons for pitchers. Ryan owns many records and is probably the most famous pitcher. Perry and Sutton threw over 5000 innings, etc. The BBWAA has been very small hall when it comes to pitchers, demanding innings, hardware and substantial peaks. If these 14 are the standards for being a HOF pitcher - and they shouldn't be - guys like Moose and Schilling are going to wait but eventually get in and guys like Johan Santana and Kevin Brown don't even get considered. Sutton and Niekro had to wait five or six years. Blyleven longer. My guess is that Moose and Schilling will both get in sometime in the next 3 years.
  2. Yeah, tough ballot. I think he should be in but I'd vote for 10 guys before him.
  3. On the PED guys, if I had a vote, I'd vote for 10 guys. If there were 14 guys who I thought had reasonable HOF claims I'd vote for the guys who I thought weren't roiding up before I voted for the roiders. I'm positive the voters have already elected some roiders so it's really a question about the handful of guys who were actually linked to PEDS in some way. Most roiders got away without any punishment.
  4. I'd vote for 10 guys just because I like a big hall. In no particular order, I'd vote for Andruw Jones, Vlad, Edgar, Moose, Schilling, Walker, McGriff, Thome, Johan Santana, Chipper.
  5. Wait, you think a team should have 14 players producing 4 or more WAR each year? I don't think that has ever happened. Cleveland won 102 games last year and had 4 players produce 4 WAR or more. Houston won 101 and had 6. Dodgers won 104 and had 5.
  6. Might depend on what we expect out of them. I see Rodney as a fairly reliable, safe 60-70 innings guy out of the pen. Maybe as a closer. Not elite but no worse than Everyday Eddie. Pineda is a lottery ticket who might throw a few innings this year and might be able to give the Twins 20 or more starts as a #3 type next year. I'd have been fine giving Kintzler or Neshek the two year deals they got but it might very well be that the FO is pinching pennies to sign Darvish or Cobb. I figured they had about 20m to spend, others think it was closer to 30. We've spent about 8.
  7. Yeah, not a huge move but he's an upgrade and I'm ok with him closing and having other (better) options pitch in different parts of the game. And if my mental math is right, we've added about 7m or so to payroll this offseason. Not sure we can do much more and sign Darvish.
  8. Well, if the Bucs traded for Burdi, I think it's a lock that they'll keep him next year when he's recovering from TJ surgery. Bummer but with his injury history, I'll give the FO another pass here.
  9. It's not a bad signing. I'm good with it. Not the answer to all our problems.
  10. Granite, as a LH hitter, isn't a great fit for our current OF anyway. Ideally, we'd want our 4th OFer to be a righty to give Kepler a day off against lefties during the season.
  11. We might also be over estimating Cole. He has name recognition but he was decidedly average last year and only threw 116 ml innings the year before. He can eat innings but his era and fip weren't great. What do we think we're getting for his two years?
  12. Sano is represented by roc nation, just like his idol, Robinson Cano. http://rocnation.com/miguel-sano/ Lewis is a Boras client (and so is Gerritt Cole)
  13. I thought a trade for Cole would have to include Gordon and Romero/Gonsalves but I think Jay and Granite is a roughly equal to that. I like Gordon a lot (I think he's our #1 prospect) and Jay could be an absolute killer in the pen but his injury history is such that I think its ok to move on. But he could really come back to bite us. But Cole could be a nice piece in our rotation. I think the deal is fair - might be a bit too kind to Pitt and maybe they need to throw in a small piece back - but it's certainly a decent starting place for a negotiation.
  14. I like the optimism. I think the Twins will give him a shot.
  15. Well, Kintzler was actually pretty good, so .... I think there are two issues and one is being ignored or missed. The first issue was "is trading Kintzler good for the season?" That's been addressed. Team had 5% chance of making playoffs, yada, yada, yada. But the second question, "is a weakened bullpen a problem if we make the playoffs", is being ignored. And let's remember that we didn't get a great prospect back for him. We got a c-level prospect. He'll be 21 next year and likely pitching in high A ball. He didn't make Sickels top 20. MLBpipeline seems to be the highest on him and has him at 18 in our system. According to them, his fastball rarely touches 90. He has no plus pitches, he has control problems. They think he still has some room for projection left as he grows into his body but I suspect that part will change in their next write up. Other writers have been less kind. And that's the prospect that the FO decided was worth getting in exchange for weakening a bullpen in the post-season.
  16. One could think that making our bullpen worse for a C-level prospect was a mistake regardless of a one game playoff in NY. Perhaps the fact that we had a weak bullpen made us have to use two starters in one game? I think fans have gone a little overboard about trading talent. It seems like some are ok so long as we did 'something' because something is better than nothing when that's not necessarily true.
  17. Catchers are more valuable than we think - Buetera, Murphy and Herrman all got us far better returns than any of us expected.
  18. Span, Revere, Morneau, Liriano, Slowey, Doumit, Hammer, Fuld, Buetera ....
  19. This wasn't the first year the Twins used the bonus pool to nab extra talent - they did it in 2015 and 2016 as well. And they traded Kinztler, a pending FA, at the deadline. I'm not sure that's different than the other deadline deals like Liriano for Hernandez and Escobar. They've used all their bonus pool money every year (assuming they do something with the 1.25 they have left this year). I'm not sure that Littell and Enns is better than Ynoa and 4m but I'm not sure they aren't, either. Maybe they could have done something else with that 4m? The IBP money fiasco this year isn't, in my mind, an example of them being creative. They went from a top Latin American prospect to two c prospects with a few failed targets in between.
  20. The window is open now. It might be wider in 2019 but there is no reason to not expect the playoffs this year.
  21. Yeah, yeah. We hear that all the time. How long did the Yankees ace last in that game?
  22. Nah, Twins could've won a one-game playoff and certainly could have taken a series from Cleveland. Sure, they would've been underdogs but (depending on the price) upgrading the roster would have been a worthwhile premise for the FO. In any event, the past is the past. The Twins window is currently open and it'll be interesting to see how Lavine deals with it.
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