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Twins (Paredes) VS Rangers (Gore) 6/15/26 7:05 CDT
HarmonK03 replied to Mortimerkenny21's topic in Archived Game Threads
And the team is 6-7 for the month thus far and seven games under .500 for the season. So all this chart shows is production by player and it is not translating to meaningful results. So let's start looking to see what we have going forward. Clemens very well could be on the team next year but if we are moving towards being a contender that should be as a utility player playing a few days a week. Not hitting 3rd every game. So rather than move Lewis around who has more upside, move Clemens around, he has and can play 3B. If Royce could lock down 1B, that would fill a huge hole in the organization. -
Twins (Paredes) VS Rangers (Gore) 6/15/26 7:05 CDT
HarmonK03 replied to Mortimerkenny21's topic in Archived Game Threads
They are trying awful hard to fit Clemens in the lineup every day. He has been hitting so I get it, but I am not sure he should the priority on this roster. That is more an indictment of the organization overall. I don't really agree with moving Lewis around, let him get comfortable in the field and hopefully that translates to continued success at the plate. -
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He is only going to throw 60 to 65 pitches, they have stretched him at St. Paul. He is on the stupid bulk pitching plan and they typically max at 4 innings. This is why they won't list him as a starter until basically the day of the game. -
You are correct, I am not sure all the losses are related to operating costs except the local tv money. But if some the debt was to Target field investments and pandemic losses as the Twins claimed then yes I think they would have invested. This is the real question what were they shown for the operations of the business and how much are they losing on operations. That is what we will never truly know. Some of the investment was definitely due to potential growth of the franchise value and getting a return on that.
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All the other teams know what Bell is, a hot streak isn't going to change that. Washington found no takers for him last year at the trade deadline and I have a feeling it will be the same this year. Gray is not falling off, this is what he is. He has had a few good moments on offense but he is not an every day player and never should have bee.
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I didn't say to bench him completely, but the original comment was he is one player that should be in there every day. That is not a good use of AB's, if you are sitting young players that you need to find out about. That is what this season should be about. Bell has a .652 OPS for the season, he has not earned guaranteed playing time and it will just make it another wasted season holding back others.
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I very clearly said I don't the know the cause of the debt, you seem more certain to me. You are making a lot of assumptions and they may be correct but none of us know. What has been reported is that the Twins were one of two teams in 2020 that did not lay off any employees during Covid. It makes sense to me that would cause some level of debt, have no idea how much. They have said some debt was from Target Field improvements that is not operating losses from an accounting standpoint. Have they shifted debt around, who knows, every entity, the Pohlads run is owned by a holding company and they did sell another major piece of their portfolio in the last year so my guess that was somewhat due to the property losses. I also know that they have brought in two new minority partners and if they were moving too much debt or not operating in a normal fashion, those partners would not have signed on to spend hundreds of millions of dollars. I am not a fan of the Pohlad family, but I was around when were there threats to move the team in the early 80's and Carl Pohlad prevented that. I am thankful for that. I like that they have mostly been hands off owners, that usually hires the right people to run the organization and let them do their job. I think Joe was too hands on and I wish Tom would get out of the way and hire someone competent to run the baseball side of the operations. I am just not as down on the Pohlads as many others are. Falvey ran this organization into the ground and everyone wants to blame the payroll number but that is only one side of the equation.
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Don't platoon him, there are plenty of ways to get him AB's against RH pitching. I don't want to see him pinch hitting late in every game after Monday. Larnach can DH for Bell, who hasn't earned regular DH duties every day. I like Clemens but he doesn't need to be in there every day, Fedko can play a day in RF. If you want to give Keaschall a day off play Clemens at 2B and put Fedko in RF again. You need to priortize getting him regular AB's, not necessarily every day for at least a couple of weeks to see what you have. This is the year to do this.
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When you label a statement as false, you probably should have facts to back it up. Unless you have access to the Pohlad famiy books, you do not know this as they are privately held. The public statements were that the debt was driven by investments in Target Field, pandemic losses and the loss of the regional tv contract. Those reasons makes sense to me, don't know if it would accounts for all the debt.
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He did have control and helped dictate the budget. It's is not a yes and no question. You just want to insist that he was a passive bystander.
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He had control of the baseball operations, he was responsible for the hiring and firing of baseball related personnel in the front office and determining the roster. St. Peter had responsibility for the business side of the operations, sales, marketing, finance and other support functions. Falvey had to get the budget approved by the Pohlad family but he had to have input into it. It wasn't the Pohlads who came to him and said in 2023 let's sign Correa. He went to them and said I need a budget of X so that I can sign him. So yes he had input and control on how to spend the dollars allocated to him. But he had to prepare some kind of plan so the family knew what he was spending and if they agreed. Remember he reported to Jim the first five years and he was very hands. How else does the organization run without someone steering the ship. Dave. St. Peter had no official control over the baseball operations, whether he exerted influence, I don't think we will ever know.
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You should at least get the facts straight. On October 3rd, 2016 Falvey was hired as Chief Baseball Officer, essentially the head of baseball operations. Thad Levine was hired a month later as GM. Falvey was then given a title boost in 2019 to President of Baseball Operations. He reported to the ownership group. Then in 2025 he took on responsibility for the business side of the Twins as well and took over as President for Dave St. Peter. He was the only one in baseball to have control of both the baseball and business operations. So to say he was just waiting for orders is just plain wrong.
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Falvey's job was to lead the baseball operations and present a plan to the owners of the best way to run the operations and produce a winning team. The owners job is to say yea or nay. The Pohlads are not giving day to day direction, they didn't add the many layers of employees to the analytics department, Falvey did when he presented a plan. This is just one example of decisions he needed to make, but he had to know that there were potential dollars to do this. He was essentially the #2 decision maker in running the Twins, he was not a passive bystander waiting for orders from his bosses.
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I had another 5 with me, so we were over 13.
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You haven't read a word I have posted. You are acting like Falvey just sat at his desk and took his marching orders from Joe P without question. He knew what the budget was, he very likely knew the direction it was going to go in future years. He chose to double down on Correa after 23 rather than utilize the resources more wisely or invest in player development. He was upper management and he had access to information many others didn't and he chose a course of action that he should have known there was risk. You are acting like he acted in a vacuum and had no idea of the consequences of his actions. I have seen plenty of management teams be given the green light for spending on projects but hold off or find other opportunities with less risk. That is not the path Falvey took. As I have said I don't know the level of knowledge Falvey had nor do you. But I consider both Falvey and the Pohlad family responsible for this mess.
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The Twins are one of many entities for the Pohlad family that has its own set of books. Falvey as PBO should have had some level of visibility to the Twins books and been able to see if the payroll was sustainable. This isn't voodoo magic, there are accounting standards and tax regulations that they have to follow. At the individual entity level it is not as complex as you want to make it. Now we will never know the level of knowledge Falvey had, but to say he had none is naive.
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I think Lawrence blew up worse than Adams.
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