I guess the difference is that a lot of people here have bought in to the idea of "sustainability" and the front office's claim that they will field a championship-caliber team year after year. I don't buy it. I think it's just words, to placate ownership and the fan base. We'll see how much the players and fans care next year when they are 16 games out of first on July 27 next year instead of 7 games out. By the way, Milwaukee was 6 games out of first on August 28th of this year. The future is bright, but 2018 still had some life in it too. But 2019, not so much, in my opinion, fruitless yes I agree. 2020 should be better.