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You have manipulated what I said to fit your needs. I included the range of anyone to "exceptionally skilled" in other areas not directly providing the skillset to run a baseball team. You are high on the list of people who think they are more skilled than this front office but I am sure you have a lengthy list of credentials that make that a reasonable presumption.
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There is not going to be a multitude of examples. How often are lower revenue teams faced with these decisions. It could be argued that these practices originate in Oakland Oakland. They traded Harden for Donaldson and Mark Mulder for Dan Haren. Got a few good years out of Haren and traded him and Connor Robertson for six players. Then there is the trade of Samardzija for Bassitt and Semien. This has been common in Oakland. The Royals traded Grienke for Caine / Escobar. The White sox traded Sale and Eaton. Those trades have significantly impact their current team. The Mariners traded Robinson Cano and Edwin Diaz for six players including Kelenec, and Anthony Swarzak. Those are off the top of my head. I am sure we could come up with enough other examples to conclude Tampa is not the only team that has executed this strategy.
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It was definitely a mistake to share actual experiences pertaining to why the front office does the things they do. Of course, I too dislike some of their transactions. I am not adequately informed in terms of their operations to have an informed opinion where that’s concerned but I probably would not agree with some of their operating practices either. What an ego to believe an extensive business education and actual profit and loss experience responsibility for a 9 figure businesses would provide a little perspective. I realize now that it makes far more sense that the angst with the Twins or sports team in general is a result of the average person or even people exceptionally skilled in other disciplines being more skilled and having a superior perspective to running a team than the people who worked their way up to these jobs. Who wants to hear that the experience working their way up might provide insight the average guy does not possess when you want to rail about their incompetence. Of course, there are no out of check egos involved in believing one has a superior understanding of how to run the team no matter how inexperience one might be in actually running an organization because it’s a simple job. Why they pay those guys multi-million dollar salaries is a complete mystery.
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I will be disappointed too. However, in terms of liking it, should we hate them following practices that have proven very effective? Our kids hate some of the things we insist they do or not do. Is this an indication that our kids might not understand what is best for them or are we the problem for following good parenting practices? I have to admit, I will hate it but I won't fault them yet because I have no idea what he is demanding.
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I have NEVER suggested they are a low revenue team. As a a matter of fact I have been careful to point out they are below average and also pointed out they could follow some of the practices of the Rays but use their incremental revenue to do some things the Rays can't. You won't find the A's or the Pirates or other similar teams signing Josh Donaldson. In other words, I agree they can definitely do more than the lowest revenue teams but it makes no sense to believe there is a problem if they don't sign guys at the very top of the market., especially when they are already carrying Donaldson's salary. The reasonable comparison would be to look at teams of similar revenue. I included any teams with below average revenue just to provide the opportunity for anyone to use any of these team's signings as an example. You might notice that whenever I ask for examples, I get tangential responses, never an acknowledgment of these facts or any sort of a response with actual examples. People prefer to ignore the facts and believe what they want to believe in when presented with hard fact.
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Same is true for constant insistence of sports fans everywhere that management is incompetent. The reason for this perennial assumption that teams are being managed so poorly could not possibly be that it's the sports fan that does not understand. They are all experienced senior level management running 9 figure businesses.
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This is not germane to the point I was making. I responded to a poster who said the Twins are not a serious MLB team because they did not sign Berrios or give him a 7 year deal or however you want to interpret it. I pointed out that there is literally one example of a below revenue team making such a signing. Point being that it's not something low revenue teams do. People constantly bitch about the Twins not doing things that none of the low revenue teams do. It's an ignorant bitch. It would be great if people had enough common sense to ask themselves if this is a Twins thing or a product of being a below revenue team. The argument they should follow bad practices because they have not been good at the practices essential to lower revenue teams is so ill-conceived it boggles my mind. Wouldn't the best course of action be to improve those practices. For example, get a new PBO and GM. Replace the people managing identification and development as well as improving analytics. I don't know yet if they have succeeded at these tasks. However, I am absolutely certain pursuing inferior practices because we have not excelled at best practices in the past would be the height of incompetence.
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How many other teams with below average revenue signed SPs to 7 year deals in the past 25 years? The answer is 1. Colorado signed Dan Hampton which was a horrific signing. Is Colorado the only serious MLB team among those teams with below average revenue? Tampa traded Snell last year. Are they not interested in winning? Oakland is looking to trade their established SPs. Does this indicate they are not a serious MLB team. Was Billy Beane demonstrating he was not interested in winning when he traded Jeff Samardzija for Bassitt and Semien?
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What Would You Pay Byron Buxton?
Major League Ready replied to the_neds's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
A good starting point is to model the impact of the variables being considered as incentives. That provides great insight to which incentives should get the most weight and how to use them. You are at a severe disadvantage in this case because your hands are tied in using any incentives that actually correlate to performance. That's the real take-away here. -
A case against signing the top free agents
Major League Ready replied to Monkeypaws's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
I get it now, you are not saying teams should cut into their profits just the Twins. Of course, we would never expect a player to play for free or even at a significantly below market which I agree is reasonable. Your expectation is every team and every player should continue to look out for their financial interests and the owners of our team should operate a non-profit. Apparently you feel this is a reasonable expectation. I would love to hear your reaction if your employer suggested you could opt to work for a fraction of your worth or if a client suggested you work for free because "you decide how much profit to make". My question is perfectly valid if our expectations of every team and every player are fairly and universally applied. The expectation that our team should be the sole team to operate at minimal or no profit is entitled thinking. Try approaching a home build or a car dealer and telling them your think they make nothing on your purchase because they decide how much profit they make. Btw ... If the Pohlad's decide to reduce their profit by 10 or 20 million, I sure home the donate the money to battered women and some other cause much more worth than and extra win or two. -
What Would You Pay Byron Buxton?
Major League Ready replied to the_neds's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
I don't agree with Mikelink45 but you might keep in mind you are a college kid that has never developed a compensation system. Having developed several for organizations producing 9 figure revenue, I see nothing that suggests you are ready to do so. You might want to hold back on the smack talk until you have some actual credentials. -
What Would You Pay Byron Buxton?
Major League Ready replied to the_neds's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
It's too bad performance based bonuses are not allowed. Something like an MVP award is hard to work into a deal. If you are the player, you are not putting much weight into an incentive only one player per league can achieve. If the measure is scalable a certain percentage of performance bonus could be earned. I doubt we see the union take a different stance on performance bonuses but they would certainly help allocate financial resource to deserving players. -
What Would You Pay Byron Buxton?
Major League Ready replied to the_neds's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
Can players still get bonuses for MVP? See .... Players with Incentive clauses We know they can't have any performance bonuses beyond appearances so how could this be done contractually? I have no problem with what you are saying if it could be done but I don't think the union allows this to be done. -
A case against signing the top free agents
Major League Ready replied to Monkeypaws's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
Maybe if you are one of the top 5 revenue teams. They can sign a half-dozen top FAs and have the budgetr of smaller teams left over. I say maybe because that practice has proven relatively ineffective. How about the last couple of years Pittsburgh, Kansas City, Baltimore and Arizona should have been playing free agents or developing prospects? How about Seattle who has now build a nice core and now that they are ready has the budget flexibility to supplement their roster. Should they have been playing free agents instead of dedicating their roster spots to developing players? -
A case against signing the top free agents
Major League Ready replied to Monkeypaws's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
What has little to do with the other. The post I responded to suggested the 1st year of a free agent SPs contract was most likely the best. I looked into this theory a couple years ago and recorded the facts which support the post I responded to. Trading Berrios given his desire to hit the free market is a different issue. -
Sorry to be harsh. I had to evaluate hundreds of people over my career at various levels ogf management and also as a consultant. Passing judgement on people is a difficult role / responsibility and should not be done without being fully informed. The kind of observations you are using are not even remotely adequate to form an educated opinion much less pass convey that opinion publicly. You are also assuming he is afraid to make a big trade when it is quite possible a big trade is not the best strategy. How many below average revenue teams have made a trade in the past 10 years for the type of established elite players called for by fans. They are relatively rare. Look at playoff teams with below average revenue and you will find the number of players acquired as prospects outnumber established players acquired for prospects by a wide margin. Tampa has thrived in part because they understand asset management and 5 or 6 years of control has more value than 2 years of control. Fans love trades for established players because they are impatient but there is a premium to be paid for established players that does not favor small market teams. Trades might be the best strategy when you have San Diego's incredibly deep farm system and/or you have all the other pieces. Does it make sense to make a big trade with all of the holes this team has presently. It might if they could convince a couple top FA SPs and a SS to come here. What you assume is fear is simply good judgement, IMO.
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A Letter to the Twins Front Office and to Buxton's Agent
Major League Ready commented on terrydactyls's blog entry in A Look Back
So how do you reduce the years of control significantly without absolutely destroying the ability of small market teams to compete which in turn will hurt the game's popularity and reduce the overall revenue. Therefore, reducing the amount of revenue available to pay players. The average fans view of these dynamics does not account for the owners desire to what's best for the game. The players are much more focused on getting theirs right now. -
A Letter to the Twins Front Office and to Buxton's Agent
Major League Ready commented on terrydactyls's blog entry in A Look Back
Do you think there is even a remote chance the Players Union would ever allow pay based on performance? They are all about guaranteed pay. -
The fan base does not have his job because they are not the best judge of what should be done. They don't pay people millions to do this job because anyone can do it. The fact you would make this statement about someone without ever so much as having a conversation with him is good evidence you don't have the skill set to judge him.
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A case against signing the top free agents
Major League Ready replied to Monkeypaws's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
A couple years ago I posted the WARs for pitchers who had signed 5+ year deals going back several years. You are correct, the 1st year was considerably better than the rest. When the 1st year was removed the aggregate production was extremely poor. The very elite (Scherzer types) have a much better history than the next rung down. There have been train wrecks like Cueto / Sanchez / Zimmerman among the next tier. -
A Letter to the Twins Front Office and to Buxton's Agent
Major League Ready commented on terrydactyls's blog entry in A Look Back
The CBA does not allow these types of bonuses. The union only accepts bonuses based on appearances / ABs. They won't accept bonuses based on a high level of performance.

