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  1. Touché good point
  2. I guess I am the only homer that some what understands his statement about the focus on winning takes away some of the beauty of the game. To me if you are a truly unbiased and objective baseball fan you love watching players from both sides making great baseball plays. Sure you want "your" team to win but great baseball is great baseball. Even great teams lose. Granted ultimately we measure a teams success by wins and losses but if you really love baseball you just love baseball.
  3. Hadn't really thought about it that much but I think you are right. Given the pitching we have and what is on the horizon, next year doesn't look much better. Unless guys really improve things won't change that much. Hopefully we can trade some guys at the deadline someway somehow and get the younger players experience to move up the time frames but as things stand right now next year looks bleak to me as well.
  4. Happy to see the Twins going hard for hitters and going young. Should help set them up for a second wave. Low minors has been short on good hitters the past few years as they focused on pitching. Hard to say if these guys turn out but they did seem to get a little of everything. 5 tool guy, power guy, speed, the best prep catcher etc.
  5. That is a pretty impressive top ten. I am hope, hope, hoping that the pitching will translate to MLB. If it does I think this team is ready to be really good for quite some time.
  6. Yep so highly regarded that the team that knows him best is desperately trying to get rid of him.
  7. I get the feeling someone good will fall to us.
  8. I don't think the context you are comparing is the same. In Basketball yes elbows get thrown around a bit in blocking guys out for rebounds and protecting the ball but really that is part of the game. If players purposely kick or elbow players especially in the face they face a fine and suspensions and the potential to be kicked out of the game. If a player repeatedly does that I think they can be booted out of the league as well. Flopping in basketball can get you suspended and technical fouls can get you kicked out of a game and fined. Football is pretty violent so stopping everything is very difficult but bounty gate got some players banned and the coach a 1 year suspension. That is a tougher penalty than baseball has for throwing at guys. Hockey has a ways to go but they are suspending more and more players all the time. I think your unwritten rules in all sports are going to go away before too long. Replaced by actual rules that better protect the players who play the game.
  9. But where does the policing end. Does Manny get to bring his baseball bat out and repeatedly pummel the pitcher with it? After all he is only protecting himself. Self policing just brings on escalation. How about just creating a policy where if the league feels a pitcher is throwing at guys they say sorry you are out of the league. Problem solved. There is no reason for self policing it is a bad idea and all sports are trying to root it out with suspensions and better rules for player safety. If self policing is such a grand idea then get rid of the umpires and let the players decide whats a ball or strike or who is safe or out? It's not a good idea that s why you have impartial judges and now instant replay to decide things. When players decide things it ends up in a fight so get rid of the players that cause it and it will go away. No need for self policing then. If you follow the rules of the game you don't need any self policing. Self policing is a lie to enable players to get away with physically hurting their opponents for hurting their feelings. If players do this they should be suspended and ultimately booted from the game. Then it will magically stop and the game will be better for it.
  10. the game policing itself is a farce. It is illogical. It why all games have to have rules. Yes I am willing to call Joe Maddon an idiot if he really believes that.
  11. The guy just doesn't seem to get it. He is going to get his teammates hurt if he keeps throwing at guys. I kind of thought he was done with this stuff after teams started throwing at KC players all the time. Also it paints your team as having a black hat or at least in a negative light. Hard for me as a fan to get behind someone who intentionally throws at guys on a frequent basis. Personally I wouldn't want him on my team. Someone will likely be desperate enough to trade for him though.
  12. Nice to see Wade moving up the list. He was quite a find in the ninth round. I love Walker but the K's are a killer. I think I am on to rooting for Palka. He appears to be a bit more well rounded. Bummer about Thorpe. I have been anxiously awaiting his return. Was hoping he could get himself moved up to high A by the end of the year. With all the past arm problems does this mean Meyer is officially a bullpen arm?
  13. I am hoping there is value at our slot for a High school pitcher. Given the way our pitching is stacking up I think that makes the most sense at least long term. I also wouldn't mind a high school bat there but not sure the value will be there either. It seems like the value will be college pitchers where we pick but who knows how the draft will go. I am OK with a college pitcher there but we could have quite a glut of starters in High A and AA next year. Not a horrible situation but not ideal either. Not in love with a lot of hitters for pick 15, but would like to use second round picks on hitters if value is there as our system is in need of better hitting at most all positions except maybe SS.
  14. My larger point is every team makes FA mistakes. You made a blanket statement of worst I doubt that assumption. If playoffs and World Series are your measure then maybe the Brewers would be the worst.
  15. yeah I felt pretty much the same way. I could not have been more wrong about Nolasco but he seemed like a safe deal at the time and considering the crappy pitching we had at the time an upgrade to boot. Things just went horribly wrong there somehow. I was applauding the move so I can't take it back and say the Twins never should have done it. It seemed like a solid move at the time. I wasn't uber high on Hughes but it seemed like a safe bet for the money and years involved. I didn't want Santana either. Would have rather had the draft pick and gone with the young guys but I did get the crowd that said you can never have too much pitching and someone almost always goes down every season so I was OK with it. Just saw the future and wanted to see the young guys. I also like the idea of going big with signing an ace type instead of mid tier pitchers but was also worried if that one signing didn't work out well that it would sink payroll wise. If you look at it TR has not done a great job and this rebuild looks to be getting longer all the time. The young guys are the only ones who can bring this team up. Hopefully they figure things out sooner rather than later.
  16. I think that is a pretty large exaggeration there. I mean the Yankees are in terrible shape because of large free agent acquisitions and long term contracts. The Angels have made terrible mistakes in FA and Boston had to have LA save them from themselves. So I think Worst is a bit over the top. Maybe lets go with one of the worst.
  17. If I remember correctly many on this board argued that you can never have enough pitching, that you need to take risks in FA and or supplement your team via FA to make the team competitive. That there was no reason not to spend the money on FA's to try and field a competitive team. It looks like TR took some chances in FA and unfortunately failed miserably. It happens to a lot of teams.
  18. I am sure you are right but have the Twins ever had a pitcher with a K9 rate that Chargois has? I don't know how much more Chargois can do to get his shot and I don't know how much more desperate the Twins can get for help in the pen. Considering all the other crazy moves they have made why not Chargois? I guess after the draft we will start to see changes as short season ball starts and they make room for more players.
  19. Wheelhouse pitched almost as well in 2014 and made a believer out of me. I thought he had things figured out back then. Then came 2015 and he really looked bad. Maybe he was injured or something I don't know. All I know is I am not sure who the real Jason Wheeler is as a pitcher. Good to see the strikeouts up but he is still a bit too hittable IMO. Could be a good potential pen arm. I hope he continues to do well because they pretty much picked him over Gilmartin and Gilmartin has done well as a reliever for another team.
  20. I am with you on this one. If we get a prospect back they would need to be better than a lot of the prospects we already have otherwise you got nothing. We are gonna have to make tough decisions on prospects this year already. Maybe if you can pry some low A guy just recently drafted with potential that might work but any prospect with only a year or two left before needing to be added is a tough sell for me as it seems like you would be trading Nunez for nothing.
  21. Twins just can't get any luck from the baseball gods this year. Must have used it all up last year. When the starter pitches well the bullpen loses the game. When the start pitches bad the offense shows up but we come up short. When the pitching goes well top to bottom we get no offense. Always seem to come up just short this season at least so far. Just need everyone to put it together to pull some of these games out.
  22. Yeah good point but the pitchers we have now at least seem capable of striking guys out. I think things will work out better this time. I have been dead wrong about guys many times Gilmartin being one of them. He seemed very hittable to me as a starter but he looks to be valuable as a reliever. In hindsight the Twins really could have used him. At the time I liked Wheeler better and Wheelhouse was very disappointing last year. Hoping he helps the team eventually but time is running out for him. As a lot of people have already said the timing of the move doesn't make a lot of sense unless the Twins feel that looking ahead he just isn't likely to a part of the future. I kind of agree and am OK with the decision but I get why others are not., Your analysis is usually pretty spot on most of the time. I just feel differently about this one and I am not saying I am right just how I feel.
  23. I am glad they let him go. He never looked good to me. AAAA player all the way. Losing Gilmartin and Jones hurts but I wasn't huge fans of those guys anyway. We have young improving pitchers that are going to need 40 man spots after this year and are likely better future options. There is no angst here for me. Let's keep moving the young guys forward.
  24. I agree that none of us know the exact right time to promote players and the Twins Coaches have a much better feel for that than than the box score fans. However, you start looking at what those guys are doing are high A and you start to wonder what more do they have to learn at that level? It just doesn't even seem challenging for Gonsalves, Stewart and Jorge there. Sure promoting to soon can be detrimental and the jump for pitchers from High A to double A is a tough one but life is full of challenges and risk. In many ways you either sink or swim as you move up. There is a lot of support for players and a lot of these guys have tough mental makeups they aren't really made of glass. Promoting too slow has it's own risks. It can create a sense of over confidence and can stunt growth as the player is no longer challenged. It also wastes the Orgs potential use of that player over time if they make it to the MLB. So there is risk either way. Can't argue on Eides it is just my opinion based on box scores. He has a good game and then a bad game and he gives up a lot of hits. Just seems better suited to the pen to me. Something could click but he seems to have been the same pitcher all the way up so I personally don;t see him changing.
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