It's insane that people are calling for a elite prospect to start the season with a major league club with no threat of competing at the cost of a year of control.
Guzman was 21 and played a position that allowed him to be bad offensively and still get at bats. All the other names were better and at least as young as Hicks. "This happens with every prospect that struggles. I saw it happen with Kubel. I saw it happen with Cuddyer. I even saw it with Morneau, which was maddening. People put way too much stock in a half season of numbers instead of giving the kid a season or more to see if he can figure it out" Can you come up with a player that had Hick's first 300 PAs at his age who turned out to be good? None of the guys you mentioned are comparable. I'm assuming they don't exist because people keep bringing up irrelevant players. "Projecting a 23 year old's career from less than 300 PAs after he skipped AAA is a good way to make yourself look foolish 3-4 years down the road" No it's not. It's a good bet. Remember when Hicks was going to be a ROY candidate despite being one of the worst players in baseball? That's a bad bet.
If we separate our position players and pitching where do the Twin's prospects rank among other teams? Off the top of my head, position players are #1 by a large margin. Our pitching is somewhere between 10-15.
You're excluding the middle. I would have loved for Hicks to be an all star but I'm not capable of letting "faith" get in the way of reality. He's been horrible from day one and the chances of him ever being really good are pretty damn low. If you have, ya know, any actual arguments I'm willing to listen but there aren't any.
I don't think he was ready for the majors at any point this season if that's what you mean. And as I posted a couple pages ago the ROY predictions were pretty bizarre.
Of players with more than 300 PAs Hicks is the 6th worst player in baseball according to WAR. Major League Leaderboards » 2013 » Batters » Dashboard | FanGraphs Baseball I mean this thread featured a serious debate as to whether he'd be a ROY candidate. It's absurd. The discussion should center around whether he has a reasonable chance to ever be better than average. The historical comps for his production would say no. He's been really really awful and he'll be 24 next season.
Yeah let's get him some pointless at bats on a horrible team. It's really bizarre that the front office is quite cheap and yet find a way to piss away service time.
Well done by Terry Ryan. He's already setting up his excuses for not resigning one of the best power hitters in baseball on the basis of "clubhouse issues" Good for the Pohlads!
There's a lot of cognitive dissonance among fans when they are confronted with the fact that they care about the team more than the players. It's an uncomfortable realization and teams/leagues do their best to maintain the 4th wall because examining these realities would be rather costly. Players moonwalk their comments back faster than Michael Jackson when they let things like "why don't the fans mind their business" and "get a life" slip out. The fact of the matter is they are creeped out by fans and go to great lengths to distance themselves from them. Keeping this 4th wall up however, cuts both ways. They get paid a ridiculous amount of money, while at the same time have to hear bored people critique them for taking a week off to be with their newborns. This thread is the culmination of the 4th wall and the dissonance of fans sacrificing a good deal of time and money on something that they are not part of.
"On their website, the Twins have 14 people listed under Baseball Operations. By comparison, the Pittsburgh Pirates, baseball’s newest surging darling, have 37 Baseball Operations employees, involving both scouts and analysts" Ouch
Well starters as a whole improve drastically when they leave so there's that. You can't have an antiquated system and expect to field competitive pitching.