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  1. Fair enough although I guess I'd say whatever you "see" is fine, but factually speaking the current roster played at a 57 win clip after the trade deadline. Whether or not that "feels" right, those are the actual results this roster has produced. Results matter. Again, we've been through this before....literally last offseason. Falvey "saw" a roster that was better than the actual performance of the team and decided to "run it back" and hope for better results. But of course, maybe THIS time it'll work...
  2. Ah yes, noted truth teller Derek Falvey, who claimed that the deadline sell off wasn't a fire sale but an intentional effort to improve the 2025 team. We should definitely take his word salad on everything.
  3. I don't know if that's encouraging. Help me figure out this equation: 60 win current roster + ??? (with little if any payroll increase, and possible a decrease) = 80-90 win roster needed to "compete" Can you fill in the ??? The Twins FO thought the 24 team was good enough to compete in the Central, so that's how they approached last offseason. It is extremely alarming to hear them consider doing the same thing this offseason and expecting different results. I am extremely discouraged by this reporting. It feels like the FO is as delusional as some of the fan base as to the quality of this roster. It pains me to keep saying it but this is one of the worst rosters in the game. Consider the insanity of this statement: "The Nationals front office believes the team is talented enough to compete in 2026." If they actually said this they would get laughed out of the room. The Twins were 3 games worse than the Nats after the deadline.
  4. Appreciate it. I don't know that I can get there, but I respect that you can. There is a path, that is very much true. I'm trying to be less cynical these days. But yep, I will not be placing World Series bets on the 26 Twins either!
  5. I really want to believe this. But logic keeps getting in the way. How does worst team in baseball + a few scrap heap pickups (in the best case scenario)OR a further selloff as is being rumored = "closer than almost everybody thinks"? I just don't understand. I can see a healthier Lopez being worth a few more wins...otherwise what could be different about 26 than in 25? Doesn't this feel like doing the same thing and expecting different results? Help me understand, o wise one!
  6. There are 2 things you can count on in Minnesota: snow in December, and Fangraphs being extremely wrong about the Twins in their projections.
  7. Not quite. Early September isn't the offseason. So nope, no false narratives here, only facts.
  8. Totally agree with this. And that's not to say that I like it, or agree with it, or think this is the best strategy. But the Pohlads are clearly cutting costs whether we like it or not. So if the choices are, "try" to "compete" by signing cheap washed up vets and keeping the kids down in the minors, or commit to a full rebuild and hope in 3-4 years we are actual contenders, I'm taking the latter every day.
  9. They only got one Top 100,000 prospect for Correa and that didn't stop the Twins from trading him.
  10. Yeah I mean the debt is preventing the team from being sold and it is driving their plan to cut payroll and let the welfare flow in, so it has everything to do with the team's operations right now, even if the debt service isn't technically showing up on the Twins payroll.
  11. The "current core" was the worst team in baseball post deadline.
  12. Nope, this is false. Buxton has been grumbling since at least September:
  13. More like, for years the Pohlads used the Twins as a debt shelter to hide the costs of their mismanagement/incompetency/lack of foresight. They doubled down on commercial real estate when even pre COVID the writing was on the wall for that market, and continuing to double down through COVID, so now they are stuck with a huge portfolio of underperforming real estate assets. They had to eat massive losses on Bring Me The News and B96, the 2 media properties that Joe Pohlad destroyed. They likely still have some Target Field debt on the books too - billionaires hate paying for things with their own money. But because the Twins books are private, the shell games they've been playing never came to light. But, as a result of their chronic shortsightedness, they never considered that one day they might want to sell the team, and that the debt would come to light in the sale process - or, more likely/alarming, they didn't think it was a big deal and they would still get what they wanted because they're billionaires and billionaires always get whatever they want. So here we are - stuck with an ownership group that is so grossly short-sighted and incompetent they do that they can't sell a company with a quarter billion dollars in guaranteed (subsidized) minimum annual revenues and a valuation that doubles every 10 years or so independent of performance.
  14. I don't believe the Pohlads have ever used the phrase "minority owners" and I think a lot of fans are putting a lot of stock into these mythical saviors. I suspect the limited partners are investors who will take the debt off the Twins' books to facilitate a quicker sale. With or without these investors the Pohlads are going to have to pay down the debt though, which is why I believe the plan is to run shoestring payrolls and rake in the revenue/tv shares for a few years. And the Pohlads may be getting a little nervous about the CBA throwing a wrench in this plan so I fear they are accelerating a bit. The Athletic had an interesting article the other day about the Pirates and Marlins actually going after some free agents this offseason, the thought being that their owners are worried their lack of effort will be used as evidence to support a salary floor or reduced revenue share so they are trying to demonstrate that they are trying to win. The Pohlads likely aren't willing to do that so you have to wonder what they are thinking right about now.
  15. Oh for sure, I don't care about the rankings at all. But the mere fact that someone close to Buxton wants it to be publicly known that he's open to a trade is pretty concerning.
  16. But someone is telling Passan this he's willing to do this, and this someone gave him this information on the record, so this someone is absolutely telling Passan for a reason. Whether that is to startle the Twins to action, or to start down the path of a trade, who knows. But this does seem like this is a bit more meaningful than your typical hot stove league rumblings.
  17. Do biomechanics help players run the bases? Sacrifice? Play defense? Run out ground balls? Hit cutoff men? Let's work on those things too. It won't cost much, and it'll have a much stronger correlation with winning than using fancy software to increase launch angle by 2.2%.
  18. In a normal market, yes, but this is MLB, closer to a socialist model than a capitalist one. Franchise valuation goes upward independent of business performance. The Twins are guaranteed about $200m in revenue share and likely $50+ more from their ESPN deal. A guaranteed $250m/year in revenue even if you are the worst run business on earth, plus your valuation increases by about $40 mil/year even if you are the worst run business on earth.... I think it's really, really easy to sell this model - if you can somehow manage to spend less than a quarter billion dollars ever year, you'll rake in profits. I think most people here would be willing to take on that risk!
  19. It's less the trade than the signal. The "plan" is coming into focus: try to somehow improve an underperforming team without investing more in the roster and magically compete for the division. Take one of the 5 worst teams in MLB, sign a couple scrap heap relievers and depth pieces in January/February after all the free agency dust has settled, and viola! AL Central champs. This was the same plan last offseason, with a significantly better core roster, and it failed miserably. Basically, the plan is: do the same thing all over again and expect different results. I'm resigned to being bad next year. I just want it to mean something, to lead to bigger and better things like the young Twins teams in the early 80s. Trying to eek out a couple extra wins in 2026 by hanging onto Jeffers (and eventually maybe losing him for nothing) is a dumb strategy in my opinion.
  20. And I'm sure you know this but it's $30-$50 TRILLION. I've seen a study suggesting as much as $80 trillion in wealth redistribution since 1975. Communism for the rich.
  21. You speak truth my man. It's so tiring living in a world for and by billionaires. But let's not despair. I'm hopeful of change too. And go Twins.
  22. Thanks for the response, a lot of this makes sense. I guess what bothers me about the whole salary cap conversation is the idea that nothing can ever change, and we must always just accept things as they are. I disagree with that idea wholeheartedly. We can actually improve things. We can make things better. We just have to try. And we don't have to just live with whatever most benefits our billionaire overlords. Oh no, a salary cap might somehow lose some billionaires a few million dollars, the humanity. Baseball is a game. It only exists as an extremely lucrative business because of fans. It's ok to make changes that benefit fans from time to time. The fact that teams like the As and Rockies and Pirates are actively trying to lose in order to further enrich a single billionaire is not sustainable, and more and more teams (ahem...) are going to do this if they can. Something needs to change and I refuse to believe that change is impossible.
  23. Why? I am not doubting you, but this is a talking point I hear often and it doesn't make sense to me. What makes MLB so unique and special and rigid that change is impossible? If every other major sports league can figure it out, why can't MLB? Aren't 25 NFL/NBA/NHL owners losing revenue because they feel sorry for Green Bay/Oklahoma City/Raleigh? Again not a criticism of you, I am hoping to be educated!
  24. Curious if you read the piece you cited. In his written order, Judge Crump plainly stated that the Twins exercised their option to play baseball in the Metrodome and he's holding the team to its lease. I did a ctrl-F for "Brad" and "Radke" and nothing came up. I think we can put to rest your hot take that Brad Radke put so much pressure on the Pohlads that it swung a judge's ruling and saved the team. The Pohlads reacted to fan "pressure" to improve the team by first threatening to move and then, when that didn't work, attempting to contract the team out of existence for spite. They have nothing but contempt for fans and everyone else beneath their station and are absolutely unmoved by criticism.
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