It was just an example. Rogers pitched both games in PR, and we immediately went back to him our first game back. Pressly pitched 2 innings in that 16 inning game, and we turned to him in the very next game and he had his worst game of the season (2 inherited runners scored). Also our first game back, we had to turn to a struggling Duke in a tie game in the 10th to give up a double to a RHB. Gee, maybe having TWO pitchers on the roster who were off-limits even in a 16 inning game was having some indirect effect on usage and effectiveness of the rest of the staff? I mean, I can't prove a hypothetical, but this doesn't seem like a stretch by modern MLB standards. Look at last year -- for awhile, we had Breslow in this role (mop up short reliever, last pitcher on the staff) and it DID hurt us and he was eventually replaced. This year, we doubled down with 2 short relief mop up guys, maybe even less trusted than Breslow, not a stretch to say it has had an impact or will in the forseeable future. If you are looking for criminal conviction-level proof that Kinley has contributed to Twins losses (beyond the ones he has pitched in), that is an impossible demand. On the flip side, I won't say it is 100% incontrovertible that he has either, but given that he is clearly not helping in any way, shape, or form, it's not that much of a stretch to suggest he could be hurting us. If not already, then he will at some point, and I'd rather avoid that if possible.