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Wait...Berrios got pulled after 1.2IP tonight? Injury?

By this I mean that most trade rumors are more about other teams approaching the Twins, and not about the Twins working on marketing their best trade chips. Example: I just read on Trade Rumors that the Rays think they could get Oscar Taveras, Shelby Miller, and a comp pick for Price. Now that is an interesting rumor. Also, the Red Sox are selling, and suddenly they are all over the place marketing their chips. The equivalent for the Twins is, I guess, if they were trying to see what Perkins would land. But I can't even conceive of them trading Perkins, let alone seeing what the market would bear. Honestly, even Fuld, who it turns out is mildly interesting as a tradeable asset...would the Twins' brass be considering trading him if there wasn't somebody asking after him?

Is it just me or are the twins rumors all very boring?

Wouldn't trading him for anything represent found money? I'd suggest a low A or rookie ball player for a return.

It was. I couldn't resist. They just seem like such an odd couple. Meyer is the best pitching prospect since Liriano, but before that, Santana. I sure hope for a more Santana-career arc than Liriano!

Two points I really like about this comparison: poor walk rates aren't the kiss of death to prospects, and the bullpen-to-starter path is a really savvy path to put young pitchers on. High K rates and declining walk rates is the best combo. And easing a prospect in in the bullpen--and "trading" for a starter when he gets promoted, is a double positive.

Other than being taller, right-handed, harder throwing, a college pitcher, slower rise to majors, and likely not to get time in the bullpen, I see it.

Download attachment: Drew_Stephen_Celebrating_US_720.jpg Right now, one of the thirty best shortstops in the game, coming off a championship season - who should be earning a multi-million dollar salary and starting on a daily basis - is cooling his heels without a team. Other, inferior players occupy starting spots on teams across the league, including, most obviously, the Twins. By now, most folks are aware of the circumstances that have forced Stephen Drew to sit out the opening part of this season. His signing is attached to a draft pick compensation, which has dried up his free agency market. Any team signing him would lose a valuable draft pick in the June draft; either their first round pick, or their second rounder if their first round pick is one of the first ten. If he is signed, Drew's former team, the Red Sox, stands to gain an extra pick in the June draft--a supplemental pick between the first and second round. But Boston only nets this pick if a team signs Drew before June 4. In recent years, MLB teams have grown to increasingly value early round draft picks, and therefore have been increasingly loathe to give them up in exchange for signing quality free agents (who aren't at the most elite levels). This year, the draft is considered extremely strong, making it even less likely for teams to sacrifice their first (or second) round pick. The presumed outcome of the Drew situation is that after June 4, he will quickly be signed by a team. By waiting until after the draft, the team will therefore avoid forfeiting a draft pick. This outcome has a clear negative outcome for Boston - it means Boston will lose out on that supplemental pick they stood to gain. The Twins have an obvious incentive not to sign Drew. They lose their second round pick by signing him. And this makes sense, as the Twins have relied on developing a strong farm system to get their organization back on track after several down years. But the Twins also have incentives to sign him before June 4: 1.a. They are fielding a sub-par SS in Pedro Florimon. The Twins' overall early 2014 performance has surprised many. This early success has led to more optimism about 2014, an optimism that wasn't there for most at the beginning of the season. b. Improving their weakest position, SS, would improve their overall likelihood of success this year. 2. Come June 4, there may be several suitors for Drew's services, when the draft pick sacrifice evaporates. It may be very hard for the Twins to succeed in landing Drew when faced with competition to sign him. Therefore, given the various incentives for the Twins and the Red Sox, it is in both of their interests to work out a deal before June 4. As we know, trading draft picks from the coming draft is not allowed. So to make this work, the Twins and Red Sox would need to work out a trade of players in their systems. They need to trade some prospects. The question is what kind of trade would be fair. For Boston, they should be willing to trade anyone who is valued less than that supplemental pick they stand to gain. For the Twins, they should be willing to accept anything from Boston that is roughly equivalent (or slightly less so) to the second round pick they would sacrifice. The Twins would also need to give something back in the trade. Therefore, the quality of what Boston would give up could be increased, because they would also be getting a (lesser) prospect back from the Twins. Here is what I suggest: First, the Twins come to a verbal agreement with Stephen Drew, dependent on working out a deal with the Red Sox. Then, the Twins trade Luke Bard for Anthony Ranaudo and complete the deal with Drew. The Twins lose their second round pick, but get back a quality arm. I'd prefer Henry Owens or Matt Barnes as the return, or Trey Ball (as a player to be named later, since he can't be traded until after June), but I am suspicious that these would be too far of a stretch. I think this would be a creative solution to an inefficiency in the market the current draft system has created. It would get Drew playing, as he deserves to be, it gets the Twins a better shortstop. (While there is debate over Florimon's worth, I don't hear anyone arguing that Pedro Florimon is a better overall shortstop than Drew). It lets Boston get the supplemental pick they might otherwise forego and it allows the Twins to get something in return for sacrificing their second round pick. Click here to view the article

The Twins have 59 games left, and need to go better than 26-33 to avoid 90 losses. They are also tied for the 7th to worst record. They are 8 games out of the wild card spot, and 5.5 games out of the first pick in the draft. I don't like rooting for them to lose. But this season is toast, they are in sell mode, and every pick higher they move means significant amounts of extra draft cap space. If they had been able to move to third last year (they tied for fourth), they could have gotten Rodon.

If the Dodgers won't trade Pederson or Seager for David Price, we are dreaming that a Suzuki package would net either. The focus should be the Orioles. The Orioles. They are 3 games up on both NY and Toronto, and TB is only 6.5 back after winning 9 straight. Nick Hundley is 0-17 in the past 2 weeks and Caleb Joseph is hitting .197. Stars are aligned for a trade. If the O's lose today or a couple of games before Thursday, the Twins' leverage would increase. If I were TR, I would say "tell me who I need to add to Suzuki to pry Dylan Bundy (or Hunter Harvey) free."

If the new site is good, I may consider doubling or even tripling the funding I contribute to the site each year.

I am wondering if Correia can stick around long enough to lose 20 this year? That might be a fun storyline to watch down the stretch.

Harvey #58 and ERodriguez #61 on the BP prospect lists last off-season. Doubt either would be attainable for Suzuki.

If the Twins could get Hunter Harvey or Eduardo Rodriguez for Kurt Suzuki, that would be outstanding. For nothing more than a cheap free agent signing to boot. It would be a steep price, but if TR can swing it--nice.

+11!1 I've said this before, but my understanding of the job of GM is to maximize value at every spot of the 25 and 40 (and to be honest, the entire system), and wring every possible win out of every available dollar--especially in a rigged system where some teams get to spent twice as much as the Twins. I don't see that approach from the Twins FO.

One more try. Joel Pineiro from the Red Sox to the Cardinals in 2007 on July 31 for a minor leaguer named Sean Danielson.

You aren't going to make this easy, are you? Joe Blanton for PTBNL in August of 2012.

Joe Saunders in August two years ago for Matt Lindstrom.

I think we can expect him to be hitting 101 regularly when he joins the Twins. JB_Iowa...JoseBerrios_Iowa, right?

Not really. Bud Norris? Wandy Rodriguez?

I've been watching a lot of little league in the past few years, and one thing that I have notices is some of the best players are usually the younger brothers. They have spent years getting carted to big brother's practices, and as such, wind up getting lots of opportunities to get reps hitting, fielding, etc. They wind up being the extra player with bigger kids when there is a shortage. My theory is that all of that extra work/playing above their head forces them to improve faster than usual.

Let me answer my own question - Career WAR: 6.7 vs. -0.8. If Drew could net a Sulbaran, hopefully KC can net something. Anything?

Which player is more valuable: Kevin Correia or Drew Butera?

Currently Sano and Buxton are VERY cheap, so they could be had for a song!

I think the fact that Perkins is LH is a detriment as a closer. That means 2/3 of the time he gets the wrong end of the platoon advantage. Anyhoo, I get the arguments for keeping him and I get the arguments to trade him. I highly, highly doubt the Twins will trade him. I do think that closers are fairly fungible, though. It would be wise to at least see what kind of offer comes back. Maybe Dan Duquette will go crazy at the chance of winning the AL east, and the ASG closing battery of Perkins/Suzuki would net Dylan Bundy?