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Where does Baldelli rank among MLB managers?
TwinsDr2021 replied to cHawk's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
Maybe that is why there is not a huge uproar for what is happening in MLB right now, besides from the hard core fans and journalists. None of my casual baseball fans really care if or when the baseball season starts. If you aren't a fan of the twins (meaning the need for a few young guys to get some reps, Lewis and Winder for example) do most casual fans care if the season is shorter/delayed cancelled? I have talked to friends about the idea of stacking pitchers and starters with the young Twin pitchers and they are like cool, maybe in a couple of years I will tune in and watch if they are good. (SSS I know) -
Twins Daily 2022 Top Prospects: #5 Joe Ryan
TwinsDr2021 replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
To me the only reason he isn't number 1 is that he is already 25. He didn't even pitch in the minors until he was 23, but that year TB didn't waste time and had him pitch at A, A+ and AA. Then after 2020 moved him right to AAA. So in less than 2 years in the minors he was pitching in the Olympics and in the majors, that is great. With him turning 26 in June he doesn't really have the luxury to not be pretty darn good most of the time, which I believe he will be with his age, ability and experience of the Olympics. Him and AK are the only two plug and play young guys, all the others are fingers crossed . -
Where does Baldelli rank among MLB managers?
TwinsDr2021 replied to cHawk's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
Not arguing with you but who do we blame what Shoemaker said about the Twins? The organization? He didn't pitch great for Sacramento (SF) but his walks and K's were way closer to his norm than in MN where walks were way up and K's were down. I can't stand Rocco, his in game annoys me and his post game annoys me (and I know that is on me), and maybe it wouldn't matter who this FO hires it would the same. When I see guys on 1st and 2nd and a left handed batter roles one over to the right side (when basically nobody is on the left) and hits into a double play, it makes me not want to watch and I blame Rocco for not installing/coaching situational awareness, or when Sano is one of his droughts and it is later in the game with guys on base, I want him pinched hit for and he is not and wildly swings at balls. Or a pitcher cruises though five innings with a mediocre but not high pitch count and he brings in a relief pitcher, knowing you still need 4 innings and will be required to use two pitchers not as good as your starter. Maybe that is not all on him, but he is the Manager and ultimately that falls on him. IMO a manager has to have a feel for the game and players and I don't see it, others may and that is fine. -
Twins Daily 2022 Top Prospects: #6 Matt Canterino
TwinsDr2021 replied to Jamie Cameron's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
The only reason(s) IMO from being in MN this year, is the 40 man roster crunch or Injuries, if he doesn't stay healthy, I believe he will be just another body that needs to be on the 40 man next year.- 25 replies
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Miranda is on the 40 man, so I see him making the team out of spring training before Rooker, unless Rooker takes the 4th outfield spot over Laranch. But anyway you look at it this team could easily be as bad as some of the worst Twins teams ever, question marks at every level, no chance I would pay to see this team, or even watch it on TV. I am not sure how a team could come up with a worse pitching staff than this, there is really only one for sure pitcher in Rogers (and he was injured at the end of last year). Every other pitcher is a question mark.
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Twins Daily 2022 Top Prospects: #7 Jhoan Duran
TwinsDr2021 replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
I just don't see this happening. 100 inning relief pitchers for a bunch of reasons. Scott Proctor was the last pitcher to do it at age 29 for his career basically last one more year. Dellin Betances pitched 90 as a 25 year old rookie went down each of the next four years, and has been hurt or terrible the last 3. Also, I can't imagine union or at least player agents being OK, with bringing up pitchers on the cheap to pitch 100 innings and then basically their career being over or not have a chance for a multiple year contracts. Also I see agents steering their players away from teams setting up their minor leagues system to implement it. But all this just my opinion. -
Twins Daily 2022 Top Prospects: #7 Jhoan Duran
TwinsDr2021 replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
Lets hope Duran figures out better than Alcala, Alcala might have figured it based on his last 10-20 innings against some of the worst teams in baseball in his second season. -
Twins Daily 2022 Top Prospects: #7 Jhoan Duran
TwinsDr2021 replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
I agree with this, IMO he is rated too high. He will be 24 this season which isn't horrible, but having pitched only 16 innings the last two years isn't a good. IMO if he is running out of options, it makes no sense to waste any time in the minors, he can pitch out of the bullpen (starting with low stress situations, maybe have a starter and have him planned to pitch two innings, or coming in for a couple innings if a starter goes bad) in majors and keep his innings down and be around major league coaches. I seen no reason to be wasting 100 mph fast balls from a 24 year old pitcher in AAA. Or trade him and let the other team worry about the 40 man roster spot, like TB did with Strotman) Not to change the subject but are all the other teams having issues with pitching injuries based on the missed 2020 season or are the Twins fans (me included) just wanting to make excuses? -
I think if you go back a few years on this site, the consensus was the Twins had a wealth of SS prospects. Lewis, Javier, Gordon, Cavaco, Will Holland. So my answer to the topic question is, yes they absolutely have a SS development problem, but so might 25 or so other teams.
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Sorry to be clear I was saying JD (3B), some SS, Polanco(2B), Sano(1B), AK(LF), Buxton(CF), Kepler(RF), Garver(C), and Arraez (DH) and a rotation of AK, Sano, Garver, Polanco (with Arraez and/Gordon getting playing time at second) at DH. You know be creative with the players. And if Miranda tears it up in spring training there will be plenty of playing time in this rotation for him, 3B, 1B, DH. You can always fine spots for guys playing well, Rocco should be able to figure that out. Rooker is 27, there is just as good a chance that Sano's gets "it" than him. If Rooker was a few years younger I might be willing to bet on him over Sano, but no chance I do now. And now people are talking about bringing up Austin, I would hope the FO has learned a little bit from that. (bringing guys up to early, or leaving Plan B as bringing up guys to early) Are you saying there can be a plan A and a plan B for the offense going into the season? Instead of just throwing out rookies and crossing your fingers, and if they fail plan B would be the Cave's, Broxton and Telis's of the world being run though MPLS?
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If Sano is gone, You could put Miranda at 3B, Kiriloff at 1B, JD at DH, and one of the other 3 has to play left, and Martin isn't even on the 40 man yet, so lets say Arraez in Left, with Larnarch, Rooker, Celestino and Martin as backups, which I guess you could believe they all will be at least average, but with that you have two unknowns starting in the infield, and backs are unknown as well, if you are the FO are you really betting your career on that all the while banking your pitching staff on rookies. I wouldn't, unless of course somebody was willing to pay quite a bit for Sano (I mean like the Cruz trade good). If I am the FO, I am starting JD, some SS, Polanco, Sano, AK, Buxton, Kepler, Garver, and Arraez at DH (with JD, Sano, Garver, and others helping out there), and forcing Miranda and Larnach to prove they belong by tearing it up in AAA.
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If the depth you are talking about is Rortvedt (Catcher), Gordon (middle fielder and should never DH), Lewis (in the minors), Celestiono (4th OF as of now), Larnach (Not sure where he even starts) and Rooker (DH), I would argue that isn't really any depth, let alone plenty. Do people realize Rooker is only a year and half younger and has less than 2200 MLB at bats than Sano. At this point I don't give two rips about the Twins payroll, for the reasons others have said.
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I don't think you should trade guys to make your team worse, trading Donaldson for sure does that, Sano before the season is a real possibility. I love me some Arraez, I hate, hate him as the everyday DH as plan A. No team should ever, ever trade away a well above average MLB player so you can get playing time for Rooker or Gordon. IMO you don't need to trade away players because you are blocking prospects, if Miranda starts out in AAA like he did last year, you make the adjustments at the major league level to get him at bats (guys will get hurt or just not be good, or you could always trade Donaldson at that time), same with Larnach, Lewis, Martin. If you start the season with Miranda at 3B, AK at 1B, and Larnach in LF, what is plan be if they get hurt or aren't good. Rooker, Gordon, or being forced to call up Martin or Lewis if they aren't ready? Sounds like a plan to fail. (On top of the Twins as of now are already planning on doing that with their pitchers) If the twins want fans to show up this summer, they better be at least decent on the field to start.
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Twins Daily 2022 Top Prospects: #10 Josh Winder
TwinsDr2021 replied to Matt Braun's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
I agree the only pitchers I would rate above him are Ryan, Balazovic, and maybe SWR. And only below Miranda, Lewis, Martin, so he should be IMO 6 or 7. Unless the belief is that Canterino could make his way though AA and AA and to the majors this year, but if he does I don't see that happening as a starter (just based on the expected innings this year), his stuff seems better than Winder, but with the amount of innings he has pitched the last 2 years, I don't know if I expect to see him in the majors until late 2023. -
Twins Daily 2022 Top Prospects #11-15
TwinsDr2021 replied to David Youngs's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
It only matters when it comes to fans perception of trades I guess. Trading a prospect ranked 25 for a relief pitcher for example, is perceived way different that a prospect ranked in the top 5. IMO I think of prospects as possible difference makers in the MLB. a 24 year old prospect in A/AA is less likely to be a difference maker than a 21/22 year old at the same level. With the covid year I think prospects that missed the year in the minors will tend to be a bit older for a few years, but in reality the cream always rises to the top and biggest difference makers will almost always come from the guys that make the majors at a younger age.- 44 replies
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Twins Daily 2022 Top Prospects #11-15
TwinsDr2021 replied to David Youngs's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
If he comes close to Greg Gagne he would have exceeded all expectations IMO. Gagne has a career WAR of 26.3 and 10 years of a WAR above 1 and 8 above 2.2. Also to stay on the age theme, he debuted at age 21 but to be fair didn't really play until age 23.- 44 replies
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Twins Daily 2022 Top Prospects #11-15
TwinsDr2021 replied to David Youngs's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
Calling BS on this one Seth, if Varland and Wallner did what they just did at A+ at age 21, they would be WAY higher up in the rankings, also if Celestino was already 24 and hadn't turned 23 yesterday he wouldn't barely be in the top 25 prospects. I don't really care if they get called up at 21 or 26 either if they turn out to be really good, but there has been talk on this board for two years about Kepler (trading him, not good enough, 4th outfielder, etc..) and he will be playing this year at 29. But if a 26 year old gets called up and plays like Larnach or gets hurt like AK, nobody has time to deal with that the other younger prospects that will be the guys getting the hype and playing time.- 44 replies
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Twins Daily 2022 Top Prospects #11-15
TwinsDr2021 replied to David Youngs's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
I think the big difference between Lewis and Torkelson, is that Torkelson has played one year in them minors at three levels, hit 30 homers and had a .935 OPS. Lewis hasn't been played in two years, and the expectation of the two are way different going into this year. I would expect Torkelson should contribute in the majors, and IMO Lewis shouldn't be expected to even play in the majors this year. (hopefully he can exceed those expectations and prove people wrong) But that is the reason Torkelson is a top 10 prospects and Lewis is barely in the top 100. IMO age is a huge difference, but Lewis isn't a good example, because he is still young, He can still make the majors by 23, even if it is the start of 2023. have a good weekend.- 44 replies
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Twins Daily 2022 Top Prospects #11-15
TwinsDr2021 replied to David Youngs's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
Not disagreeing with you but Torkelson might not be the best example, he was drafted in 2020, played basically all of 21 as a 21 year old and played at A+, AA, and AAA, and won't turn 23 until August, so unless Detroit is playing a service game he should see the majors at age 22. Rutschman I believe was affected by Covid and if not for that would more than likely have been in the majors last year as a 23 year old (since his birthday was a week ago). Matt Wallner was drafted in the same draft and hasn't played above A+.- 44 replies
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Twins Daily 2022 Top Prospects #11-15
TwinsDr2021 replied to David Youngs's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
I would tend to agree with Covid the ages might creep up, but in most cases guys that are future All Star types will still see the majors at a fairly young age at least on the offense side of things. I think where we will really see the difference is in the pitchers based on how careful teams are with them. And the idea there is no need to bring a 22 year old up when you can stretch him out in the minors a year or two and control that pitcher though his late 20's.I can see lower Revenue teams to doing that so they never really have to pay the big dollars for pitchers. Cleveland for example has kind of been doing that, it might not be intentional but Clevinger, Plesac, Civale, Morgan, Plutko, and Kluber are examples.- 44 replies
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Twins Daily 2022 Top Prospects #11-15
TwinsDr2021 replied to David Youngs's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
I would agree that I think of prospects as kind of the game changing players, not just guys that will make it. For example and forgive me if I missed somebody, but looking at last years all stars and when they first played in the majors it seems pretty consistent that the best ball players start their MLB career early. There are rare cases like De Grom. Which means most of the Twins prospects need to step it up this year if they hope to be future All Stars. Age Players 19 2 20 10 21 10 22 18 23 14 24 14 25 6 26 4 27 2 28 1- 44 replies
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Are the Twins an unattractive destination for FAs?
TwinsDr2021 replied to cHawk's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
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Are the Twins an unattractive destination for FAs?
TwinsDr2021 replied to cHawk's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
Have I been unclear that it is about money and length, until things are even, then other things come into play? Since a peak in 2007, Minnesota has seen its rate of natural population growth — births minus deaths — steadily decline even before COVID-19 hit. And it's had a net population loss due to domestic migration in all but three of the past 21 years.Dec 21, 2021

