This is the essence of my point. Not only did they achieve this, but they also came away with possibilities to help in the future. Was it lucky - very much so I would say. But they took a chance on being lucky and it paid off, that's where I put some fault on Ryan. He went with low ceiling, high floor instead. To be clear, I don't know that Arrieta will be anything. He is getting older and has failed many times, but the NL has a way of curing a lot of pitching ills. In any case, this is a guy who was fairly well thought of within the last two years, which is worth a gamble. That's why the Walter's comp fails, he hasn't been though well of in years, if ever. By what measure? I guess to me, it's pretty clear Strop is a superior player. Quite awful this year (Jeff Grayian awful even) but much better over his career. Since bullpen guys are known to swoon, seems like a good flyer to me. Anything Strop and Arrieta provide is gravy to the international market cash and to what Feldman did during the year. But they were great buy-low gets for a guy that cost them nothing more than a few million. Which is where I think Ryan missed some opportunities last offseason.