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  1. TheLeviathan
    I do like the Gausman idea, for the same reasons I was banging the "go trade for Jake Arrieta" drum a few years ago. Former first rounders/high end prospects that flame out early are excellent buy-low options and should be pursued as often as possible.
  2. TheLeviathan
    The correct summary would be: Beane is a good GM, but seems to have had a rough stretch. Unfortunately, it appears that acknowledging or analyzing his mistakes is very difficult because some people will defend anything and everything he does solely because he did it. You particularly didn't appear to be doing that, but this is a frequent pattern by some who look at praising people like Beane or the White Sox as a thinly veiled way to jab the Twins. And this is coming from someone that is more than willing to criticize the Twins. I just prefer to keep my analysis of all parties as unbias as possible and from the outset of this deal (in context with other moves) - I thought it was a disaster waiting to happen.
  3. TheLeviathan
    I guess I didn't realize that in order to participate in the trade deadline one HAD to make a blockbuster involving major prospects and elite talents. Shame, figured there might be some competent, helpful players out there that could also be acquired. Oh well......
  4. TheLeviathan
    This thread should brace itself.....
  5. TheLeviathan
    That's preposterous - all teams go through stretches where they look awful. C'mon.
  6. TheLeviathan
    It's not that it's gospel, just pointing out that it's unlikely they will turn the job over to him full-time given their choices this season. They just seem, for whatever reason, dead set against it. I personally think it's a bit bizarre.
  7. TheLeviathan
    I guess I'm wondering on your basis for that? The trend curves aren't perfect and not everyone will decline. Tulo might well be a productive offensive and defensive player for the rest of his contract, but the aging curves do indicate that into their 30s declining play is just part of the expectation for most players. I think, in the case of Tulo, it might have extra weight given the fragile nature of his last few seasons. Maybe those were just flukes, but to me they are heavy indicators of risk. Not enough for me to write off trading for him, but serious enough to heavily weigh on the decision.
  8. TheLeviathan
    No one said it is a trend, nor need it be a trend specifically to him to make the point. All players decline as they age and we have various statistical models that show us when and how much based on age and position. We should EXPECT that this would be happening soon unless he is an outlier. Could Tulowitski reverse and go back to his earlier numbers? Sure, he might be an aging outlier, but let's not pretend we need to have several years of declining numbers on his part to assign some risk.
  9. TheLeviathan
    That they asked for him in the trade?
  10. TheLeviathan
    I agree, continuing to play Santana is not wise. I'd like to see Escobar or even Polanco at this point. I've said I'm not opposed to Tulo (especially if we're not trading anyone currently contributing) but his injury history and declining defense are pretty much right in line with SS aging curves. And that curve is one of the most precipitous of them all. That really makes me hesitate. But for the right deal? (Berrios+Kepler+?) I could probably get on board. It's just tremendously more risky than some are trying to pitch.
  11. TheLeviathan
    Wait..so your contention is that those are our only options? The hell if I know what is all out there or not out there on the market, but I know this fallacious dilemma is just ridiculous.
  12. TheLeviathan
    That's great that he's accumulated WAR as a part-time player three of the last four years, that not's the point. The point is that his declining defensive stats and age make it unlikely that continues and very likely that injuries continue to hamper his on-field contributions. And since our choices at SS don't necessarily have to be limited to Escobar, Santana, and Tulowitski....it is a false dilemma you're arguing.
  13. TheLeviathan
    You're creating a false dilemma to further fall into this trap. Tulo isn't the only way we could improve SS, so I'm not biting on the false dilemma. WAR seems to be a really poor way to measure that effect of injury. The truth is that his defense, by the metrics, looks to have sharply declined. His recent injury history is a serious red flag. The normal aging curves for shortstops tells us that what we're seeing is typical at this age and likely to get much worse relatively quickly.
  14. TheLeviathan
    Weren't you the one that told me people understand how to use WAR? You know, as a comparative tool best used over a larger sample size?
  15. TheLeviathan
    Using WAR to explain away a fragile health record seems like a copout to be honest. The truth is, to be what we want him to be, he's going to need to be on the field. His WAR doesn't help us much on the bench. I have serious concerns about a 30 year old SS with declining defensive metrics and a brutal health record continuing to put up the same production.
  16. TheLeviathan
    I don't disagree it's probably a net gain (if Tulo stays on the field, I'm going to keep emphasizing this because it is a much bigger factor than anything else IMO), but if I'm going to give something to help me now, I'd rather focus on giving things that aren't helping me right now.
  17. TheLeviathan
    I don't see how cherry picking Gibson's best is any different than the Tulo people choosing to utterly ignore the guy's fragile health record the last 4 years. I like Tulo and for the right package, I'll take the gamble. But it IS a gamble given his problems staying on the field.
  18. TheLeviathan
    Chief's point was about what the Twins thought of him. It's hard to make the case the Twins want him at SS when they repeatedly chose to play Nunez there instead.
  19. TheLeviathan
    This is a rather large tough part that sort of undermines the "win now" aspect of doing this trade....no?
  20. TheLeviathan
    You're also twisting things with the "remotely equal" talk - the point was that they thought they could replace Donaldson with Lawrie and not downgrade significantly. That appears to have been a colossal mistake. One that, in my eyes, was pretty forseeable. And yes, I find these moves baffling. As a whole picture they make little sense because they haven't made the team better in the present and it's likely, over the last calendar year, that they may have downgraded their future talent base as well. Just because some of these deals have loose parallels individually doesn't change the fact that the larger context of these deals made little sense.
  21. TheLeviathan
    Hell, I'd have supported Boyer staying in just out of hope the Angels pound him into a DFA.
  22. TheLeviathan
    You didn't. Dave did.
  23. TheLeviathan
    No one is immortalizing Kyle Gibson. He's just, you know, sort of important right now also. SS aging curves and Tulo's injury history are a very stacked deck against this move long term, but you hurt your short term goals to give up one of your better starters to get him. Could there be a net gain? Sure, but why would you do this for anything other than prospects?
  24. TheLeviathan
    It's natural for a tough loss to effect a team, especially a young team. They do need to get it back on track. Calling for Molitor's firing? Just...wow.
  25. TheLeviathan
    With his injury history? Um, yes. Yes it does. I also fail to see how giving up one of our better, younger starting pitchers moves us forward.
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