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We're 5 episodes in, I very much appreciate all the ideas that this show is trying to tackle. And it's been exceptionally cast.
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Baldwin is such a schmuck, but I'll give him credit: he was really good as Trump.
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Yeah, this team is "blah".
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We don't disagree. I think I was just trying to build off your point and note that the libertarian party still has plenty of whack jobs. Hell, the platform this year even opposes abortion rights. I think perhaps Ted Cruz has done exactly what I feared: co-opted the name and is now driving people to the title without understanding what it actually means. (Not that a view on abortion does that in and of itself, I wish that particular issue had a lot more nuance and good sense, but it is a troubling sign)
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Yeah, I'd say the Green Party has the same tendency. To separate themselves they end up becoming whackos rather than staying true to what they are. And there is absolutely a market for social liberalism and smaller federal government. Also, I think it's worth pointing out, that the anti-regulation talk is a bit deeper than it appears on the surface. I understand people being hesitant to see government shrink it's role in regulating business, but there is a flip side too. Part of being a libertarian means that by shrinking government, you are also shrinking the ways in which government and big business work together to stifle the little guy. We may not need as much regulation if we cut some of the ties between the economy and government. But, personally, I'm not as hard line a libertarian about regulation. I think it's necessary, but should also be as minimal as possible.
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Probably right. I think we tend to see them as marginalized viewpoints in part because the parties are marginalized. I think most people would identify as being largely libertarian if the definition was this: more personal freedom and government is largely in charge of these things and as little else as possible: education, (a much smaller) military, and regulation to prevent fraud or abuse. (I'd put medical care in there as well personally, but I don't think most people would agree with that. Hell, I'm wary of including education)
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I think that's a very rigid interpretation of what it means to be Libertarian, but I agree the party takes a lot of blame for that viewpoint of what a libertarian is. In many libertarian circles you'll even find things like universal basic income being discussed, so there is a broad array under which one can call oneself a libertarian. I wish the party would embrace the large umbrella of ideas offered by the idea of more "personal freedoms, keep government to necessities" as a platform. Instead, as you say, they tend to just be socially liberal Republicans.
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If nothing else, I'd have just liked to see a viable third option get enough traction to force both the Dems and Republicans to stop playing so many little games that screw over the average person to keep themselves in power. You know, to force the focus back on acceptable governance. Libertarians, at least fiscally, would be an option to vote for that would reduce military spending, reign in our foreign policy a little bit, and try to fix some of our deficit issues. Or at least their viable presence in the race could move the needle in the right direction. (Like Bernie's surge brought certain issues to the forefront) Alas, they nominated Johnson for the umpteenth time and in addition to being very bland, he's appeared to be high/stupid when interviewed.
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I'd call any major newspaper a "significant" endorsement for Johnson given what he's shown us so far.
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Players are large investments. I think that explains about 95% of it.
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I'm shocked by that endorsement.
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I think 2/20 would make a lot of sense for both parties.
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I would recommend Jessica Jones as a precursor. Plus it's really good.
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Though...it is hard to argue with Kang's logic.....
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Kodos, man.
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The libertarian party is certainly a mess, but there are many prominent libertarian thinkers who have a lot of great solutions. But you're right, as a party, they are utterly failing to live up to their own name. I still call myself a libertarian, but Johnson is doing that label no favors. There are also lots of loud extreme libertarians that give the viewpoint a bad name. (Like, I guess, all parties. Libertarians seem to have already given into their fringe even before they became a relevant thing)
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Yup, the trailers look really, really good. I'm excited about this. My wife and I have been holding off binge watching anything for a few weeks so the slate was clear.
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Epstein was a realist and asked Cubs fans to be the same. Took a little time, but the payoff is what matters. The Twins NEED to be realists this offseason, like they failed to be last offseason. And hopefully we'll enjoy the payoff in a few seasons too. -
Penciling A 2017 Starting Rotation
TheLeviathan replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Again, something that need not be stated. No one here is under any delusions that the Twins FO is perusing the board for ideas. We're all stating opinions. And all stating opinions that we can assume mean the most reasonable thing.- 254 replies
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It's a great point and that's the danger I'm worried about. What Trump represents has gone fairly mainstream on the right wing side of things, but they were largely laughed off as recently as, what, 8 years ago? Hate George W. Bush all you want, but he was beloved by hispanics and would look soft compared to what passes now. McCain and Romney too. My point is that the fringe becomes the core alarmingly fast if left unchecked. And then people in the center who are well meaning think the only way they can continue to associate with what they thought they were (Republicans this year, hopefully not Democrats in the future) is to abandon good sense and join with that fringe or be humiliated or ostracized. Trump is a manifestation of the reasonable center of the right wing collapsing and giving way to the fringe. I don't think the left is as far away from the same as it likes to think. And spaghetti monster help us if they both break.
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I think the problem is 538 is an average and I was taking it as a computation. That doesn't appear to be the case when I play around with some other things. So you're right, my apologies. He would need to flip Virginia or Michigan as well.
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The right used to laugh off the Trump-types as the "fringe" too and look how that went. The problem is that the fringe is often the loudest, most repugnant, and most dogged of your ideology. And if you let their nonsense go for long enough thinking it'll stay fringe, you get Donald Trump as your nominee and a total cluster-@^%* on your hands. And the number is growing. We see more and more of the kind of nonsense Brock posted because people are emboldened when they see it working. And, make no mistake, that kind of stuff IS working to silence others and oppress free speech and the exchange of ideas.
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Broad claim about millenials being a problem...I can grant that. A broad claim about the trend in liberalism? That I wouldn't grant. No offense, but you work at a community college. That isn't the epicenter of this problem. Community colleges aren't leading to this. Or this. Words can't do this justice. I hold hope that prominent liberals are pushing back and trying to keep liberalism standing for the right things. Too few conservatives did the same as their ideology went flying off the rails and look where that group sits now. We need sane, responsible, thoughtful people on both sides to make this thing work well. We're heading down having neither side offering that up in the near future.
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538 currently has both of those going Dems (VA and CO) and flipping those three states would win it for Trump. FL has 29 votes, NC has 15, and Ohio has 18. A swing of 52 votes would easily put Trump over 270 based on their current projections. (Looking at their now cast section, it wouldn't be 52 because Ohio is already for him, but the swing of 44 votes would put it at 274-264 Trump) So it's possible we're looking at different things, but if those three states all swing Trumps way there is absolutely a good chance he wins.
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Dave, I don't know where you're getting your numbers from, but if Trump won Ohio and Florida he'd have a great chance to win the election. You add North Carolina and it's almost a certainty he wins. 538 is currently predicting a 305 to 233 election difference. That's with NC and FL going Dem. You flip those 44 votes and he wins. And I have no idea how you think the Dems take the house.
