TheLeviathan
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Pet Semetary makes sense. God knows every other king book has been made into three different versions.... I can't remember which one, but one of the sequels was actually pretty good. I think they made like 8 of them, but people only remember the first one. Kind of like the 34 versions of Planet of the Apes. (At least it feels like there are that many of them.....) And yeah, Hancock was extraordinarily dumb. Like, MST3k should've live riffed that sucker.
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Jorge Polanco At SS Could Be Disastrous
TheLeviathan replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Yeah, Nick's a pretty sharp guy. He'll occasionally latch on to one of the smarter ideas guys like us are trotting out there. Good for him..... -
Jorge Polanco At SS Could Be Disastrous
TheLeviathan replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
We blame the pitching but it's only part of run prevention. Bad defense has a domino effect and getting bad defense from short is especially critical. I would think the last few years would have taught us how crippling that can be. I mean, we heard last year that Sano's D wasn't going to hurt us and we saw ample evidence to trounce that notion right? So why are we trotting that same line of reasoning out again? -
Jorge Polanco At SS Could Be Disastrous
TheLeviathan replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Unless we have blocked it from our memories due to PTSD we all remember how much the Nishioka disaster at SS destroyed our team. A left side of Polanco and Sano is inviting serious run prevention issues. I'm all about giving Sano run at third, i think he can improve greatly with reps. But you need a SS next to him that you can rely on and Polanco isn't it. -
Also, I'm not sure I'd take the title literally. I think it's more a description of the current situation (as far as Luke is concerned) than a forecast.
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I'd be curious if you had particular movies in mind with this comment.
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What kind of prospect do you think we'd get?
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Jorge Polanco At SS Could Be Disastrous
TheLeviathan replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
This is like the third article in a row I feel you are trolling points I make to turn into articles Nick. I demand co-authorship credit........ (And good article!) -
I'm less concerned about four years from now as I am 2. We need that trend stopped.
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I would argue the lefts fractures have been an ongoing issue for awhile. Obama's mass appeal masked some serious underlying issues. Trump's win does too IMO.
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I'll accept it when the smoke clears and the teams move in different directions. That both have essentially froze all activity which tells me those reports aren't very tuned in. Both teams at least, on some level, still think something is going to happen. Or could. And I don't think that'd be the case if the reports were accurate.
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I just don't buy the reports because they all stem from LEN. I think there is a distinct chance one of them is on the table. I've already repeatedly recognized the Dodgers may be low balling. It's also possible the Twins have never backed off their initial crazy demands too. We just don't know and we may never know at this rate.
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Yeah, I think most of us are in that camp. DeLeon is a fair centerpiece and I think they have a couple good options for the second piece. If any of those secondary guys are on the table, I think they're making a mistake to turn it down. Trades for hitters the last five years indicate it's highly unlikely anything else better is coming our way.
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Republicans don't always unify over the candidate, they unify over issues. Or against certain issues/candidates. So it's not so much what Trump did to unify for him, it's what the left didn't do to unify against him.
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In the three examples you gave, here is how they break down IMO: Lucroy - he's a unicorn. Two way catchers just don't exist. And he's cheap. Sorry, but scarcity is an enormous factor and Dozier just doesn't compare in value because of it. (Not to mention Jeffress, a young reliever who was pitching well, came with him) Eaton - five years of dirt cheap control pretty much says it all. There is every reason to believe this propels his value beyond Dozier, even if we could argue that on a per season basis Dozier is more valuable. I personally think they got a haul here that I have trouble believing. So I consider it an outlier. Gomez - Gomez wasn't dealt by himself either. Fiers was pitching pretty well at the time of the trade. Would they have been able to net Phillips without both of those guys in the deal? Either way, Phillips and Santana is roughly equivalent to DeLeon and Calhoun, no? And that would be a deal I'd accept. I think the Twins should seriously weigh the risks of holding on to him. DeLeon + Buehler/Stewart/Calhoun would be pretty close to those three deals and there is less demand for Dozier and reason to believe he's less valuable than at least two of the guys who netted similar deals. Hanging on to him means he gets older, his team control wanes, and his production may tail back - all of which could jeopardize seeing that kind of deal again. If the Dodgers (and I know, that's a big if) have offered something like DeLeon and one of those other prospects, it is a serious risk to turn that down.
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Does it help to know that the statistics indicate he likely wouldn't have done much with them even if they had been full?
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Yup, weird as it may sound, the right is almost more inclusive as a voting coalition. The left is far more cannibalistic and stubborn. It sort of relates back to the point kab and I were making upthread. It's hard to be an independent with either party, but I've often marveled at how quickly liberals turn on their own for even the slightest step out of line. It's hard to fully buy in when you know how quickly you can be turned on.
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I can't fault your position, we disagree, but you acknowledge all the risks so that's perfectly reasonable. The only thing I'd quibble with is that we don't know if it is $1.00 on the table or not. If it's 1.25? 1.50? Well, then that changes a lot for all of us I think. We just don't know.
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I agree Chi and yesterday when you didn't like my phrasing of "start a movement", that's sort of what I was talking about. Left-leaning groups are around, and have been around, for awhile. And there are a lot of them.But they suck at generating any actual movement as a group. They are more likely to splinter and less likely to actually make a difference. Especially in terms of turning out voters. I hope yesterday's wonderful protest becomes a movement that makes a difference on actual issues and on ballots in two years. At the end of the day, that's what makes a real difference. It sure seemed like they were hoping to do that, time will tell.
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Not a year. 3 months/half a season.
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Lucroy plays catcher. I think you thoroughly underestimate how big of a factor that is. Over the last four years only 5 catchers have a WAR over 10 and he's second only to Buster Posey. Dozier is 7th out 13 second basemen with 10 or more. That's a huge difference in scarcity that is likely the reason for the lack of demand. Lucroy is also younger and cheaper. So production like Lucroy's is scarcer, he's younger, and he's owed less money. Explain to me how that isn't the recipe for a lot more value?
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Apathy is not exactly a new thing for the Democratic voting base. Some of us in the election thread were calling it the biggest X factor in the election, simply because turnout from the right is pretty consistent, but the left is erratic. So yeah, maybe this is the punch in the face the left needs to try and get that turnout more consistent. To get people involved so that we're not electing people like Trump and, even more importantly, actually electing people at local levels and in Congress. Like drjim, I think there is enough sane infrastructure at the executive level to keep things in check, but at the smaller levels of government we're getting killed by a lack of involvement by left-leaning voters.
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Tough year for this sort of thing. RIP and all the best to his family.
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Dozier isn't nearly as valuable as LuCroy. Why would we expect the same return for him?
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Good question. Let's hope it's still around at the midterms, it's desperately needed.
