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  1. I don't consider "junk" very clear. The only thing it makes clear is that secondary pieces were discussed. We don't know what they were. I may not be so willing to concede that they are in fact "junk" depending upon who it was. You seem to have taken that second-hand speculation as fact, I take only the fact that there were discussions of secondary pieces away. Without knowing who they are, I won't just conclude that they are junk. It could be the expectations were unrealistic. (Which, again, we know was also true at the outset)
  2. I guess I'd call that "stupidity" and not "rebuilding".
  3. Sure, 99.9% certainty. Morosi and many others have reported a package. But it's misleading to keep framing this as a 1:1 deal we turned down. That isn't what happened.
  4. Wouldn't a team full of close players who aren't there yet be the definition of a rebuild? That's if I even accept that they are "close"
  5. I guess I'd like to see May stay on the mound before I say that. Ditto Chargois. And even if I granted 4 guys, that's a third of a pitching staff. Looks like plenty of building room to me.
  6. I never said I would've been better, it was a hypothetical man. C'mon. I was simply remarking that in their shoes I don't take 1:1, but I work like crazy to figure out the rest. Everyone is speculating because none of us know what the deal was. It was a package of multiple players, we only know one of them. Who the rest are depends on how literally or loosely you choose to interpret the word "junk" IF that's even true. Part of being a GM and making trades is gamesmanship and negotiation. I hope we were doing a good job with this, but I suspect their was too much stubbornness on both sides.
  7. Cespedes did not qualify, Fullmer was never ranked that highly. Upton returned Delgado but he was a year removed from being on the prospect list, though he had been on it around the same area in 2011. (The deal happened in 2013) If you're trying to find an exactly parallel deal you probably won't, the key to look for is how often propsect talent of that magnitude is moving for any hitter and then approximate Dozier compared to that hitter. The problem is that other than Lucroy, that hasn't happened. And that's not hyperbole, it's just not happening. Virtually every deal I looked at netted guys in the 50-100 range.
  8. The pitching staff sure looks like a rebuild to me. I see Berrios (hopefully) and a bunch of guys.
  9. Well, I guess we'll find out about JDL won't we? He's one of the ten(ish) best pitching prospects in all of baseball, we may very well have just turned down a #2. Or a bust. Time will tell. But he was a top ten(ish) pitching prospect by many accounts. Good luck finding another offer with that on the table.
  10. It was not a 1:1 swap. "junk" doesn't tell me much other than, with 100% certainty, 1:1 was never being discussed. So, please, let's stop ever saying this was 1:1. We don't know what the "junk" was or the rest of the package, all we can say is there was a package headlined by JDL that the Twins didn't feel was enough. But that is a wide range of possibilities.
  11. Denied? No, I don't think so. Dramatically underappreciated the need? God yes. And I would argue we could retain Dozier and still end up "wasting" him. In fact, I'd argue retaining him is most likely to end in us wasting that asset. (And we've been over the fact that I wouldn't just give him away, but I'd have found a way to make that deal happen with DeLeon)
  12. Everyone who pitches the ball? So....half the roster?
  13. This team needs a #2 starter more than it needs two Brian Doziers. Has the off-season caused us to forget that you also have to stop the other team from scoring too?
  14. Would everything after the original Matrix count? Because never has any movie franchise fallen so far from where it started IMO.
  15. I would agree they have that right. But don't come crying to me for sympathy when you attack someone else and they retaliate. If you're going to have weapons, you get to be responsible for how you use them too. And that goes for self-reflection on our own use too. (We are some drone happy bastards....)
  16. Which would be a good bet. When gunnathor tried to offer examples of top 40 prospects moved for hitters only one was straight up (Lucroy) and both of the other deals included a valuable arm in the deal as well. If we're going to exceed an offer with DeLeon, you can almost bet it won't be with Dozier by himself. If it happens at all.
  17. What do you mean by "more highly regarded". I would characterize the love/hate swings on Berrios and DeLeon as pretty similar.
  18. Not in my house....
  19. Could be. There are valid reasons to be concerned about how the money will be used. Not that it justifies doing something illegal, but still.
  20. I agree Nick, giving aid is always a dicey thing. I'd have to know how it was getting delivered. That's a major, ongoing issue in Africa too. I have no reason to doubt Obama's integrity. Still, I'd rather it would've been done two months ago and not now.
  21. I'm pretty sure Kate Beckinsale is scientifically near perfect. If such measures were done. I don't really have a list either, but I tend to go by "When both my wife and I comment that some particular human is breathtaking...." then that pretty much wraps up the discussion as far as I'm concerned. Hell, my wife ogles Kate Beckinsale more than I do....
  22. Even if it isn't shady, it sure feels shady. If the money directly goes to help the Palestinian people I'm glad it was sent. (And by help i mean give them food and water. Not enable missle launches)
  23. I don't know what else was offered with DeLeon but I'm 100% sure it wasn't a 1:1 swap.
  24. You're like a double entendre machine right now..... (And no, she is nowhere near my list)
  25. You can leave now. Oh and Parks and Rec was absolutely brilliant. Just brilliant. My wife and i are considering going back for a rewatch of the whole thing.
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