Jocko87

You might read back again. These questions, and more, have been answered. Directly.

I’m not ignoring anything, we are talking about slightly different things. This situation you are describing could very easily be an error based on how easy the play was. The runner doesn’t factor into the decision. In any situation where the runner was deemed to have affected the fielder, like doing the hokie pokie in front of the fielder, should be called for interference. The same way the sun doesn’t factor, it’s there regardless and the fielder has to make the play and is judged on that alone. On the Kepler play specifically, he is getting the benefit of the doubt being a known great outfielder. I would call it an error as he was there in plenty of time and it bounced off his glove. If the official scorer says an average fielder doesn’t get there at all a hit is somewhat defensible scoring.

He shoulda been sliding.

Correct. Kepler getting the glove on that specific ball makes it an error. Just touching the ball with the glove does not make an error, like a diving play or something. A base runner cannot, by rules definition, cause an error. That's called interference. From MLB.com Definition A fielder is given an error if, in the judgment of the official scorer, he fails to convert an out on a play that an average fielder should have made. Fielders can also be given errors if they make a poor play that allows one or more runners to advance on the bases. A batter does not necessarily need to reach base for a fielder to be given an error. If he drops a foul ball that extends an at-bat, that fielder can also be assessed an error.

There is something to that and the reputation that they don't make that mistake.

My interpretation of that play is that if its a relatively normal hop and you get a glove on it you get an error. The runner doesn't matter to the scoring or the play. Not getting a glove on a ball makes a lot of scoring decisions easy.

Oh shoot, great play Royce. Nice challenge.

Nice play Floro. Nice try Royce.

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It's what the pebble does to the ball, causing a fielder to have to make an extraordinary effort to make the play. The sun doesn't make an action on the ball. A high pop fly in windy conditions can be an error but can very easily be called a hit if the fielder got gusted. The wind would cause the play to be tougher so its the ordinary effort standard again. I would like to be having these discussions about errors but whats being called now is so far from any standard its impossible to tell. The scoring correction twitter feed is very busy.

This squad can put out some deep lineups.

No, that's out of ordinary effort. A pebble isn't a condition.

Mostly cause the dollar menu ain't exactly athlete food.

Oddly slow turn there.

I couldn't get the freeze but it clearly deflected. My point is that an error is an error, regardless of the sun in the eyes. There is no discount for conditions.

But its getting the glove on the ball that's been the differentiator, not the sun.

I was watching the shadow live and thought about it before the miss, like uhoh. Still doesn't matter, sun in the eyes is an error.

That has to be an error. Ordinary effort. Also somehow a 0.590 xBa and I wonder if that plays into it anywhere? Obviously not a 59% hit rate on that ball but if that figures into scoring decisions it would explain a lot.

Good news that Yandy's Diaz could join us again today after a scary injury yesterday.

Lots of interesting updates on Do-Hyoung Park twitter about rehab players. Must have been a data dump at the news conference.

Same with the Rangers and several other "scary " lineups.

I watched Paddack in person last night but left before Alcala pitched. Paddack looks every bit of the part but his velo dipped a bit and he was obviously getting tired. Sat comfy 95 for two innings hitting 97 once and 96 a couple of times. He was a man among boys for two innings, then we started to see some contact and foul balls in the 3rd and in the 4th he got hit hard. The home run allowed was a monster shot on a 93mph fastball. It looks to me like standard stretching out and he still has a few weeks to be truly ready but I'm wondering if his routine changes to get to the pen. I was thinking about a spring training timeline and that all still works out but some of it has to happen in the bigs. Two innings the stuff was electric, two innings average. Just saw on Do-Hyoung Park Twitter that it one more relief session with Wichita for Paddack and one with St Paul. Speaking of updates, lots of stuff on Do's twitter fresh on Buxton and others. Too much to link here but the interesting news is on Buxton. Interesting that they are just now doing a shot. It makes me think they have been working a conservative approach to time up for the playoffs with the more drastic stuff. I'm looking forward to our resident orthopedist to weigh in on this one. I remember being concerned about Polo coming back without a procedure but if the body can heal itself that's always preferable. https://x.com/dohyoungpark/status/1701993674802881026?s=20 https://x.com/dohyoungpark/status/1701993674802881026?s=20

I guess it’s only appropriate TK gets to ponder on it for a night. 🤷‍♂️

I didn't realize he was coming in after Paddack or I would have stayed. Looked like a very eventful inning from the gameday.

4 innings, 4 hits, 2 runs both earned. 6 ks and one enormously long home run to a career minor leaguer.