Badsmerf
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Can you link it? I would (might) enjoy reading that.
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I'm hopeful Lindsey Graham, John McCain, and Rand Paul will continue to stand against Trump on egregious issues. Paul Ryan has even joined in the dissension toward Russia. The crack still exists within the Republican party. I think it's clear smart individuals in the party are toeing a fine line with Trump. Taking the side of Russia is not going to win points with people that lived through the cold war, or those whom believe Russia is a major part of the humanitarian crises in Syria. The list is long, that is just a taste. I am honestly still shocked he won.
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So now that Hennepin county had reviewed the case, and still declines to press charges.... and only 6 of the players are actually believed to be involved... does everyone still believe the university is justified in how this has been handled? Again, this is far from over.
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Twins Request Final Offers For Dozier
Badsmerf replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Not in Twitter. I'm disappointed in this poll. First, you should have a "hell no" option. Second, you should have a "rally monkey" option. I'd have difficulty choosing between the two (usually default to rally monkey for everything). -
You can't throw your hands in the air and just say **** it if you're Israel. My problem, is they know better. I almost consider them apart of the West. I would have the same opinion if it was Spain and Portugal. Just because one (not) country does wrong, does not mean the other is justified. I sympathize with Israel as well. I still condemn the settlements. I still support the UN resolution.
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I believe we all see both sides. I do expect more out of Israel than I do Palestine, because Israel is the one holding all the power. I don't agree with unwillingness to budge because of a fear they will be taken advantage of is an acceptable excuse. That is what the global community is for, to help I making fair negotiations. Again, if one if the parties steps out of line, they get punished.
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When the Palestinians are continually being backed into a corner, continually having to face down Israel WITH the USA baking them up, living as second class citizens... it's easy to see where radicalism comes from in the territory. Levi you're giving Israel to much leniency for their actions. I'm not by any means endorsing Palestine, they have committed more observable crimes, which is why many continue to back Israel. If a border is drawn, and Palestine gets their way and continues to threaten Israel.... It becomes a different discussion. I don't understand why Israel continues to hold on.
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I'm completely in favor of everything Obama has done over the last couple days. Israel should not get our unwavering support. The UN is standing up against these actions, we would be fools to endorse them. The fact trump continues to think he is already the president and should be able to influence policy should scare the **** out of everybody. Obama should do everything in his power to now make it difficult for trump to damage the country. Including, appointing a supreme court justice (it would only stand a year, but that is better than none). Take the gloves off Barry.
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Even if it was a ploy, why wouldn't the cards go along with it? The red Sox and Yankees do that all the time to force teams too give up more. It will happen. I'm convinced, like Dave says, the haggling is over the third piece. Twins want high upside and Dodgers want to give them a replacement level player. I know many don't agree, but I'd take puig as the third piece, even if we need to throw someone in.
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The never ending 2 point conversion attempt. And, another targeting. Come on man. No reason to leave your feet there.
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Defense has held up much better than I expected. Offense is still terrible. Probably doesn't help having Tyler Moore out. Brooks finally looks healthy. It's going to be depressing watching the qb position if green doesn't get to play right away.
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Loved it. The end was awesome. I hope they do another prequel before the last movie. I would love to see a rise of the empire type movie. One where we really learn to hate Vader and the empire. That would be awesome.
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It isn't the tribunals which are the problem. It is what they are deciding which is important. Expel them for the things you know they did. If the violations do not fit with expelling, then don't expel. The issue is when we're letting these tribunals make decisions based on acts they find criminal. That is should be beyond their scope and they should rely on the courts.
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That is fine when it comes to things less serious. I don't think anyone would like it had it been a murder charge which wasn't brought to court yet the university still suspended players for murder. I think that should be the distinction here, criminal vs uncriminal. The issue is due process, which is fundamental to our country. I'm amazed people are sifting it under the rug so easily. Brooks, I would feel much better about the situation had the university not labeled these kids sexual perpetrators. Instead, they could have cited a number of code of conduct violations (like levi said) and disciplined within reason. If they chose the same punishments, I still have issue with the individuals which were not directly involved. And again, the university should walk a fine line here because they do not have the power to decide sexual assault.
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The point about the war on drugs is that no matter how much you enforce, people will continue to do them. I don't think sexual assault is the same crime, but punishment alone isn't going to stop it. I guess I'm not as willing to abandon my ideal of justice for the sake of punishment add others. This isn't taking a stand against sexual assault. Want to do that? Initiate programs to help avoid it. Pitt I place systems which make it more difficult for these things to happen. Create awareness and propose athletes take a mandatory seminar on it if you feel singling them out is important. Being the judge and jury to label these kids with sexual assault is terrible. I also disagree they could have been expelled for lewd behavior. Punished sure, but within reason. I don't see how Tracy survives this.
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Levi, i agree 100% with your stance. I haven't been able to post much, but I am not on board with how this incident is being handled. This rhetoric of punishment for prevention is coming from the same people that oppose the war on drugs. I find the example about murder precisely what this is about. I believe the law will be on my side when this gets sorted out.
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I don't think we would know about it otherwise. I think it would still be a topic of conversation, at least in this forum.
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Proof beyond a doubt is really missing the point. You are still focused on if the sexual assault happened, and not on the process of decision making the university used. If she had a civil case, she should have filed it. You keep bringing that up but fail to account for the charges being dropped or civil case being pursued. This is not satisfactory for due process any way you look at it.
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Goosebumps.....
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Just would like to point out this discussion is why I love this forum. We can talk about things like this in an open and respectful manner. Great insight Ben. I do have one comment about your posts. To me, any prior history with this woman is irrelevant. All we should be basing our opinion on is the facts of the case and how it was handled by the university. I believe the university is wrong, simply based on the things I've read so far. I do think this could get messy.
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Sorry I wasn't clear. I'm questioning the decision by the university right now. This issue seemed to be over. The details surrounding the incident notwithstanding, a few athletes were disciplined and we all moved on with our lives. I believe this is the university overcompansating.
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I'm not debating that about the university. However, there is a big difference between being found not guilty and not having charges pressed. Cases get filed without having a case sewn up is my point. Unfortunate situation no matter what at this point. Amazing how little moments change the course of our lives.
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I'm not willing to accept that as easily as you based on what we know. I think rape and allegations surrounding it are serious and still require a burden of proof to be established. I'm sorry, I believe a case would have been filed if there was even a chance these guys were guilty, at least i hope it would. Besides that, players on the team already served a punishment earlier in the season. The definitive players involved. This is double jeopardy for these guys, and it's not fair.
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I remain to believe in innocent until proven guilty. Does anyone actually believe a university organization has more credibility with these matters than the police? I haven't seen the video, the police have. They determined no foul play. If you really want to play the card that it doesn't mean there was no rape, you are already assuming it happened. This decision by the university has made it into the national spotlight, and if the players sue... and win... They are going to look real bad. This program is a joke.
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There is a video tape with no evidence of rape. Are you comfortable with the school telling players how they can have sex? I'm not. Where does it stop? What if it was gay sex omg? I don't care if a woman decides to have sex with the entire team, it's not my choice. The university didn't have to make this a big deal. Again, we most likely don't have all the details.
