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  1. Well, that's not quite how I see it. The Twins are building from within, and are being cheapos until the young core emerges. Which is frustrating, but somewhat understandable. Again the thing is about those mediocre players is that we pay them because the players they replace would have negative impact. Treading water is NOT the same thing as drowning, guys.
  2. I totally disagree. You're ignoring the fact that players can have negative value. As paltry as their contribution might seem, mediocrity is worth something in that it's actually not bottom of the barrel. The Twins already scrape the bottom of the barrel and find semi useful players (Florimon, the relief corp) but that's not a realistic way to supplement a winning club. You have to pay for quality innings and quality at bats and defensive flexibility. Assuming you can just find those guys, is how you lose a lot of games. I mean how many starting pitchers have the Twins used who turned out to be much worse and less reliable than either Pelfry or Correia--such pitchers aren't at all easy to find. I think it's intellectually dishonest to compare league average players to players on the waiver wire or in AAA. The guys you mention aren't bottom of the barrel, there's a whole subset of players who are a lot worse and still take major league at bats and pitching major league innings. As much as we hate to admit, a zero VORP or a 1-2 WAR player does have value, the guys that are preeminently available have negative value.
  3. You still need to spend money on the less sexy, supplementary cast of characters that make a winning ballclub. Ellsbury, Tankaka, Abreu? Seriously? Be prepared to be disappointed. Signing one player like that is pretty unrealistic, much less more than one.
  4. You can't expect to build a winning ballclub by pouring all your money into one asset. The Twins can afford Davis and make a significant splash in FA; if any FA requires the Twins take on no more new money, we're not going to get much better.
  5. For me, the numbers 70-79 are italicized...
  6. Your vote should be in italics. I believe.
  7. It does make some sense. Especially if they've given up on Parmelee being a regular.
  8. I think you're dismissing the value of having pitchers who aren't AAAA who can put up league average numbers over a significant amount of innings. We'd be a lot worse without them. More, I'm not sure what realistic scenario would earn the FO credit; the standard seems unfairly lofty. Well, I guess I'm not really sure what you think they should have done. Pelfry and Correia may not be difference makers but they were quality signings; I'm not sure why its anathema to admit that. Was it enough, of course not, but whatever they would have done wouldn't have been enough to overcome all the setbacks they had with quite a few young players.
  9. Right, but that's kind of my point about why it probably wasn't prudent to sign Grienke or Sanchez last offseason...
  10. Name ten better SP FA signings. (Heck, name five). Putting their numbers in context of the pitchers that were actually available demonstrates their relative value. Pitching 150 to 200 innings at league average is hardly sunk cost. Those are 300-400 innings that PJ Walters isn't required to pitch. diehard checked out the results of the FA class earlier in the year, and provides a handy list to just how many bad pitchers got contracts.
  11. So we'd be closer to a 75 win team? I just don't think the go-sign-an-ace narrative is very viable when the team is this far from competing. Part of the problem is that we need five quality starts, not just one ace to compete; if the Twins dump too much money into one rotation slot, they have less money to invest in the rest of the rotation. I could be in on signing the 2015 FA version of Sanchez; as it optimizes the acquisition by aligning it with our emerging core.
  12. Was it really the lack of pitching acquisitions that led to our failure this offseason? It far more to do with players who produced in 2012 failing to produce in 2013 (I'm looking at you Diamond). Counting on Worley and Gibson (which seemed reasonable) also turned out to be foolish. I'm not sure it's realistic to expect a GM to replace an entire starting staff. That the Twins ended up with two reliable (though not sexy) pitchers from the free agent class is something of a boon. I know it goes against conventional wisdom, but the bottom the barrel guys, Correia and Pelfry (imagine what his numbers would like if the Twins actually let him rehab in the minors), are two of the better SP FA signings from last season, especially in terms of cost. The list of better SP FAs would be pretty short, and likely far more expensive.
  13. Great at bat by Presley.
  14. He's young enough that he'll still have plenty of time to rebuild his stock; iirc, he was thought to be a fast mover through the system as a reliever.
  15. None us would have thought that the Twins and the Nationals would have the same score in a ranking like this a year ago. Much can change in a single calender year...
  16. What 'money being an issue' means is, well, up for interpretation. That Morneau was expensive, made him undesirable to obtain, and his baseball value made giving up much of value unpalatable. Money being an issue just means the deal isn't getting done; it does not mean that the Pirate are offering a better package if we pick up the tab. They want us to take a bad deal and pick up the tab (well, why wouldn't they?). There's another option here that you are dismissing out of hand, which I think likely. The better prospect was off the table. We have no reason to believe that a better prospect was offered to the Twins at any time. We can make inferences from Morneau's expense all we want, but there's nothing to tell us that the Pirates were offering us more talent in any scenario. Apologies for the splice. I think we've stated our sides, and I don't mean to have the last word, but this is well-trodden territory, and we owe it to everyone to wrap up individual quibbles, let's keep that it mind as we wrap it up.
  17. AAA power arm at short, right there.
  18. I'll take what's his name over what's his name every day of the week. Thank you very much.
  19. I'd put Ron Coomer in the mudpit with ANYONE!
  20. Well, our AAA team is better than the Astros AAA team; 2013 will always have that.
  21. Way to avoid the double play with the bunt! I like it.
  22. Thanks for tracking this down. I knew I saw this somewhere and wanted to mention it but I couldn't track it down.
  23. I'd like to see those reports. Because I can't recall seeing anything as definitive as that. And the suggestion that Twins (or their PR people) would openly lie to LEN3 about their willingness to eat money seems totally unfair and pretty baseless. IMO, they'd simply say nothing at all, rather than leak an out-and-out lie.
  24. Who's this Arcia guy?
  25. Right, but even then, I just don't understand why the Pirates would give up anything more of value, when they had latitude on cost. Sure, it makes perfect sense for the Twins to pay the contract if they get a better player, but I doubt that was ever an actual option because of how senseless it was for the Pirates to offer that option.
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