So, my general feeling is that if a person chooses to support traitors and/or cowards, that is their right under the First Amendment. It just means any claims made must be evaluated in light of that support. I think both Antifa and the Proud boys are cowardly, and as a consequence support neither. Violence is always immoral; however there are circumstances where it is nevertheless necessary. For example, the case of the Allies in the Second World War, as mentioned above. I don’t see how that could be true in Charlottesville or Portland. Are there any good counter arguments to that?