Fire Dan Gladden
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One of things I love about views like this is the complete disregard for the reality that only one team wins the WS every year and if it isn't the Twins, the organization is a complete failure. This sounds more like a Yankees fan than a Twins fan. There are multiple other posts here discussing how the Twins have been better with Falvey than without, I am not going to rehash that. Arguing about the results of the sell off right now is insane because it could take years to know the results. You can argue about who built the team, that was gutted, but keep in mind other teams found all of the Twins players useful and wanted, not even including the 5-6 coveted players left behind. Stop blaming Falvey for everything and take a look at ownership for once. -
Positive spin on the opportunites left behind... Too soon?
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That is a 100% Minnesota view. I can't imagine 95% of the baseball GMs doing this. Didn't we tear down Terry Ryan for being too trusting and loyal, not cutthroat enough to survive in today's game?
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I am not sure the complete teardown was necessary, but I think what was shocking was the timing. There was no inclination this was coming. Yet another PR disaster
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Hopefully this brings in new owners sooner than later
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I understand this comment will instigate a lot of hate, but what does Falvey need to say that will appease everyone? Everyone knows what happened here. Ownership dictated a fire sale. They don't care about the future of the team as they are looking to sell and make the most money possible. Falvey was put in this position, he may even be under orders not to talk about it. Falvey isn't perfect. No one is. Personally, I think he has done more positive than negative for the organization. Whether by his choice or others, I expect he will be gone in the near future. This is a business folks. We-as-fans feel entitled to transparancy and explanations, but that is a fallacy. We are entitled to nothing. This is a very sad time to be a Twins fan. Not because of Rocco or Falvey, but because ownership has systematically destroyed this franchise through a handul of terrible public decisions centered all around saving the last dollar. Its like watching the movie "Major League" happen in real time. For me, the ride is more important than the results. Because if ownerships complete disregard of the fanbase and future of the organization over the last 30 months, this team is 3-5 years away from being competitive again. This not on Falvey, but on ownership. Just try to keep your disagreements civil.
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If you think Falvey is driving this, you are crazy.
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Somebody better check on Trueblood, his keyboard might be smoking right now.
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Lots of fan emotions running rampant right now. This is not on Falvey, but on ownership. None of the major moves were made without ownership pushing hard. I am not going jump the gun on what the Twins did or did not get. Hard to know if there were better deals to be had. All I know is that this is arguably the worst day as a Twins fan since Bud announced the Twins would be contracted. Hard to see an owner destroy a team and fanbase. The only possible positive from today is that it was driven by a potential buyer wanting a clean slate.
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For everyone that has been screaming to blow up the team so the prospects can play, you are getting your wish. No reason to keep Lopez or Ryan for next year, expect to see them moved in the offseason. I hope you enjoy your 50-win Twins next year,
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Does that mean we wont see any more comments? Just askin...
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Does that mean we wont see any more comments? Just askin...
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Sorry Jamie, your positive take on Abel doesn't fit the narrative that the Twins got hosed in the Duran deal. Getting 2 guys that slot into the top 6 prospects won't work. Let the follow up bashing from the Miller trade commence.
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Regardless of what happens with Correa, a change in ownership will reset the expectations baseline. Until the team gets sold, every single decision made from trades and hires down to which type of soda is kept in the clubhouse will have a financial tinge to it. The ownership situation really needs to be resolved so a direction can be decided on.
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When we see people that never have a positive thing to say, I always tell my kids to be thankful they don't wake up in the morning looking at the world like those people do.
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I spitballed it.. 50-60 IP. Still not enough
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I agree with this, as Duran is going to become very expensive over the next few years. That doesn't mean the reasoning is bad. Personally, I am probably more down an Duran than most. It feels like before this year, he underperformed to his stuff. More Eddie Guardado saves than Joe Nathan saves. He has been great this year. With his velo trending downwards, sell high. Regarding the trade, I don't know. People are expecting the world for 40 IP annually. They got a possible rotation piece and a decent C prospect. Most prospect-for-player trades don't work out... so I expect to see an abundance of positive comments on the TD board.
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This is very true. People forget that deadline deals are as much about sending salary out the door as they are about getting prospects. If the Twins do not trade Castro or Bader, is anyone here going to comment on ownership willing to spend money on salary to keep the team watchable over the last two months?
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You didn't read my comment. I am not saying that money wasn't a factor in including Dobnak in the trade. I am saying that the money was not enough to substantially move the needle on the prospect return. All teams make cost saving moves, don't act like Twins ownership has a patent on this doing this.
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The Jim Bowden of TD strikes again... Sometimes you can accomplish both saving money and getting a quality prospect. Does anybody here think that Paddack would have gotten a top-ten prospect without the Dobnak inclusion? We complain about the Twins finances all the time, but all teams do this sort of move. Sometimes we need to look outside our little bubble of contempt at ownership and see what this truly looks like: a quality move for the Twins.
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Up until this year, it felt like Duran was underperforming his stuff. More Eddie Guardado than Joe Nathan. I have advocated trading Duran for a while now, that hasn't changed.
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ESPN trade rankings has both Duran and Jax listed at 30% chance they get traded. That feels about right. Between the pending sale and the Twins proximity to being competitive, I think they would need to be blown away by the package. If they are sitting in this same position at this time next year, I would put the odds of both of them being moved considerably higher.
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There should be a lot of opportunities for the young pitchers over the next few months. SWR, Festa, and Mathews, plus Adams, Ohl, and anyone else pending trades. I am just hoping to see progress giving the fans some hope for next year.
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I can understand the low grade for the Tigers, especially if this is the only pitching move they make. It does little to improve their SP, feels more like they are rolling the dice he can be effective out of the pen. Strong defensive catchers always have a place, even if it is only organizational depth. If he has any bat skills at all, he could be a backup for a long time. A high-floor catching prospect for what we gave in return? Yeah, I am not sure what ESPN is expecting from the Twins here.
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Really hard to complain here, especially since Paddack has gone downhill as the season progressed. Salary dump for a legitimate MLB prospect (the legitimate comes because he is a catcher) playing a position of need for the Twins. ESPN gave this trade a C for the Twins. Feels more like a B+ to me.
