Whammy

I'm fine with the assumption that it played out like Duran said it did (I've seen articles that the Twins are looking into it) but I think the title of this article makes an faulty assumption that this necessarily was a Twins fan. Maybe it was. Maybe it wasn't. People can be the worst. I can't imagine what's going through someone's mind when they says such terrible things. I never thought I would be the guy to report someone's language, but at a game last year I felt like I had to. The fan was making everyone around them uncomfortable and kept escalating what they were saying (ultimately, they want a reaction and when they aren't getting it, they will escalate as much as is necessary). It's went from embarrassing to unacceptable. The Twins staff (ushers and security) dealt with it quickly and kicked the fan out. That's all we can do. Report unacceptable actions and hope it's dealt with.

Nevermind. Game day messed it up

Not a ton of 5-2-5 double plays in baseball.

With the Martin HR, Outman is now the only hitter on the Twins this seasons without a HR. I hope he can get one before he gets DFA'ed.

At this point, mentioning the attendance each game feels like if I got on 35W at 8am every day and went on to the 35W discussion board to mention there there was traffic.

I wonder if Morris is considered available

In the moment it didn’t look quite right and nothing the rest of the AB left me less concerned

For the record, I’m concerned that Buck tweaked something on that first swing

Should’ve called up Kyle DeBarge for this game. I wonder how many instances there are of players facing each other where one player was the guy who got a QO and left a team and the other guy was the draft pick they got for the other guy leaving.

What filter/threshold would you suggest that would be narrative free? 1 inning? 1 start? Include injured guys who WILL see time? 20 innings? Include CF who played in the corners some last year?

Somewhere in the article, I would suggest listing the 7 lefties the Twins/Saints have used.

It wasn’t his first career HR

This is where I'm at. I don't know enough to really create my own draft opinions, but reading write ups from people that DO know enough has me excited for any of these three. 1. Cholowsky - The stud, who would only fall to #3 if other studs unseat him, and/or if the teams above us get cute with their bonus pools 2. Lackey - Premium defensive position and a hit tool that's taking off. I'm pretty sure if pressed, Keith Law would take him #1. 3. Flora - I love the idea of taking clearly the best pitcher in the draft class. Not very often you get a chance to do that. Beyond that, there will obviously be some really good players but something about trying to suss out which of the 15 Shortstops will be the best of the bunch seems like such a crap shoot (Especially for an organization that has made cuts in the scouting department). It feels like you're trying to answer more questions, most importantly, which position do we think he's ACTUALLY going to play. And on top of that you've got to figure out who's hitting is going to translate to MLB the best.

I understand why we brought him in for a shot last year (toolsy upside) and I even understood why we handed him the 26th man job this season (Glimmer of upside, no options, Buxton insurance, low wattage role), but 2 things have happened now. 1. He's stunk 2. Kreidler is on the roster Kreidler is just as good of Buxton insurance as Outman was AND he's an elite defensive infielder. As long as Kreidler is on the roster, Outman is completely extraneous. And extraneous in a role that's designed to be low usage is not a good place to be. I assume what it's coming down to is how long the Twins think Royce will be on the IL. If it's just for one more week, then I GUESS they can keep kicking the Outman can down the road, but I really think it's just time to move on. I'm totally cool with calling Emma up if they can find him consistent AB at least 5 days a week. His problem has been health and right now he's healthy, so let's do it. As has been stated, this likely means less playing time for Caratini and Clemens, but I'm fine with that. Part of me wonders if they are looking out over a week for when they might be facing fewer LH starters. Obviously you can't project that with 100% accuracy, but you can get a pretty good idea. At the very least you could probably project when we might be facing the toughest lefties (have we already face all the best lefties in the league?), which is who you'd shield Emma against, if anyone.

My OCD needs the title of this thread to be fixed

Did someone say challenge?

Apple Watch said it. It’s binding.

Anybody got one of those fancy bullpen usage charts handy? The start of the game thread didn't have one.

Based on what's available in the bulpen, I'm fine leaving him out there to get through the 6th and getting through the end of the order if he's reasonably efficient (He's at 85 pitches at the moment)

In some ways this is why I think teams will never be like "We told Wallner not to challenge" Other than placating the fans, what's to be gained with that. So I've been hopeful that the reason we haven't heard things like that through the media was that there was no real incentive for the Twins to put that out there. But the hitters decisions have been so bad (I know I keep harping on that, but they've been really bad), that I've become skeptical that these discussions are happening even behind the scenes. Which is a real problem, in my opinion.

I have to think there have been SOME discussions in the clubhouse about when hitters should be using their challenges, but the last few games the hitters have been making SUCH bad decisions that it actually makes me a little worried that Shelton is treating this a little too unseriously. The last two games having the ABS challenges in the late innings has had such a massive positive effect that it seems like the perfect real world example to use in that discussion. "Austin, I know you thought it wasn't a strike, But regardless of whether you were right or wrong, that strike just didn't mean that much. Just look at what Jeffers has been able to do to help out our pitchers late in the ballgames. We need to keep our challenges. It's critical to winning ballgames." Edited to add: I don't know the numbers, but it wouldn't surprise me if those 4 correct challenges by Jeffers had close to a +1 Run Saved. If Martin would've been correct with his challenge yesterday, it would've been like +0.005 runs gained. Meaningless.

Another one - Will team-level decisions be made based on the Home Plate Ump that day? For example, if you know you've got CJ Bucknor behind the plate, do you say to your hitters something like "we really need the catchers to have the challenges today. There are still wituations where it's ok, but I need you to be really sure, especially in the first 5 or so innings" Will you put a different catcher behind the plate that day?

Some thoughts i had in early March.... ------------------- I like the direct effects of the ABS challenge system. Adding a layer of strategy. Getting more calls right. And probably adding a little bit of time to the game length in order to have those things happen. But its the secondary effects that I think are WAAAAAY more interesting and something I've been thinking about a lot. If there's an advantage to be gained players will try to gain it. If there's a new thing to be measured, people will try to measure it. Here are the big ones in my mind. I'd love to hear other thoughts and ideas on this. 1. Length of game – I think this has maybe been overstated a little. The actual time it takes to do the challenge is 10-15 seconds. We are, at most, adding like 2 minutes to game length, directly from the time it takes to perform the reviews. HOWEVER… we don’t yet know if it is the pitcher or the hitter who is going to end up with an advantage over a large sample. If the pitcher ends up with the advantage, then offense will trend down slightly, and the games will shorten. If the batters end up with the advantage, then the opposite will be true. It's hard to say which way it’ll go at this point and it might be a little bit team dependent, depending on how they allow their players to deploy the challenges 2. The strike zone – There’s a lot here. All players have been physically measured and so now they all have their own unique strike zone within the ABS system. They’ve all theoretically had unique strike zones up to this point, but that relied on the umpires to make adjustments on the fly and I suspect that they didn’t fully account for the size difference between, say, Jose Altuve and Aaron Judge. Do smaller players now get to fully realize the strikezone advantage they should’ve been getting this whole time? Does Emmanuel Rodriguez's small stature and good eye at the plate give him and even larger advantage that he's been seeing in the minor leagues up to this point? How does digging into the box affect things? It doesn’t take long into a game for there to be a hole in the batters box. Given that the strikezone will be based on the height of the plate, not the height that the player is standing at, is there an advantage to be gained by “digging in” an inch or two below the level of the plate. The new measured strike zone would go from the top of the knee, to now higher up the leg. This would help players that struggle with low strikes and have the opposite effect on players that struggle with high strikes. Will MLB regulate the amount of digging into the batters box that players are allowed to do? What about cleat length? 3. Catcher metrics – Pitch framing is no longer quite as important, but will there be a new metric of “Catcher Judgement?” I think most people agree that the catcher is in the best position to accurately judge whether a pitch was incorrectly called a ball. I’m envisioning two new measurements. A) challenge accuracy. This one is simple. How many challenges did they call for and how many of those were correct, but B) one more layer deep we will be able to analyze how many calls they SHOULD have challenged and the leverage of those pitches. You’d love to correctly challenge every missed call, but a missed 0-0 pitch that just clips the corner isn’t nearly as impactful or as big of a miss as a missed strike 3 call that caught a lot of the plate. "Catcher Judgement" feels like it's going to be a massively impactful statistic. Also, Catcher receiving position has been a hot topic the last few year. Mostly, I believe, catchers have tried to get lower behind the plate, in order to get more low strikes called. Does that matter as much any more? Will catchers go back to a more traditional crouch because it gains them back a slight advantage in throwing out runners? ------------------------ That advantage (of catcher/pitcher vs hitter) MIGHT be so stark that teams don't even really want their hitters triggering ABS challenges because of the much higher likelihood that they are wrong and they don't want their catchers to lose that ability going forward in the game. It could be that they only allow the hitters to challenge in truly extreme leverage positions, whereas, as the catchers prove out their ability to be correct a high percentage of the time, they have a much longer leash in terms of when teams allow their catchers to challenge. Said another way... Just because, if looking back at old data, the misses that umps make tend to be more likely balls that were called strikes (calls batters would challenge), doesn't mean that those are the calls more likely to be correctly challenged. It could be that catchers would also be really good at identifying those calls, but they are, of course, not going to challenge calls that have benefitted the pitcher.

Completely disagree. There is so much strategy and several secondary effects of the new ABS system