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I agree 100 percent with you on Jenkins playing a part in our improvement even if it starts in June as opposed to opening day. He is ready from my POV as well. I see Emma, Connor, Raya all as having an impact next year as well amongst quite a few others that are near ready or ready mid season barring injuries of course. We still havnt seen the best of Lee and I know he is working his A off this offseason.. I still am a big believer in Lewis and will see his true colors this year in a leadership role as well. I know you watch a lot of baseball, same here. I love MIlbtv and make sure to attend every affiliate for games as well. If we can get things moving the right direction next season, which I believe will happen. And hopefully the team can maintain a solid fan base. I hate making predictions because everything is fluid. But we are going to be more than pleasantly surprised going into 2027 and do not need to rip it down to the studs to get there.. I also agree if a desperate team comes in needing a pitcher and will make a desperate offer, we’ll take it. I just don’t see that until the deadline or next offseason. I will check out the GM roster tool, thanks.
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All great questions and I appreciate you asking. We definitely do not have a championship roster, but a possible low seed playoff roster. I would be open to trading Ryan for the right guy. But I’m not to enthusiastic about trading for prospects in a rebuild with 2 years of control. I just don’t see teams willing to part with the elite of the elite prospects in return. I 100 percent expect our development department to improve, and expect we will see this right away starting in spring training routines.Gathered from various conversations, I believe we will begin to perform and the past couple years of underachieving will be a thing of the past or yes there will be a new front office in place by start of 2027. I havnt enough information to put together a roster yet, but soon. I also expect a payroll over 120m. I don’t see replacing the entire front office, Burton, Lopez, Ryan and Rocco in less than 12 months as anything the owners would ever consider. So these rumors of trading all 3 guys before the season starts? Honestly not even at the rumor level because it’s not being considered by the powers that be. Just reckless speculation by others. I always enjoy your insight on here so ty, Sorry I’m always late to these Conversations on TD.
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That would be nice, but now those that make a living off reporting rumors will move on to asking us if we should trade Jeffers, Emma, or insert players name.
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I see that, You actually had quoted my post saying you were confused. I was just clarifying. I actually hadn’t commented on your post is all.
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I was clarifying your confusion.. You might have mis-posted here. Now I’m confused.
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Let’s assume you know those three players will not be around after 2 more seasons, so you trade them now, because we assume they won’t be playing for the Twins 3 years from now. Trading 3 star players/leaders+new manager+new owners+new front office+new bullpen= an unprecedented tear down. Sounds like an expansion team except by then we would all be to jaded to care.
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I do not anticipate Ryan, Burton, Lopez being traded anytime before the deadline and even then, so many things would have to go wrong to lead to such a trade. It seams a lot of TD voice a pessimistic outlook, then describe how to make that outlook become a reality by suggesting/hoping the trading of the above 3, fire the FO, get a new owner. What many don’t understand is doing these 3 things, in one seasons no less will lead to a lengthy rebuild, unwatchable baseball, a LOWER payroll, empty seats, multiple stops/restarts and lower payroll again. So basically it leads to what so many of us including myself do not want to see. You can’t advocate for trading our higher paid stars and then be angry at ownership and front office for being cheap, at least not logically. Yes, I do believe we will add, and it is not blind hope. It is based on logic and conversations. Will we add enough? Will it work? I do not know the outcome, but the plan will be to add and improve in 2026. Many are threatening to not attend or watch a Twins game until they get what they think they want…new owners, new players, new front office. Most owners will only slash payroll to ensure a profit. So to each there own, predict the demise, then explain how to achieve said demise and then be outraged when demise is achieved. A slippery slope for sure. New does not equal better, it equals different. Yes it has been 2 seasons of non playoff baseball. I’ve seen much longer stretches and I want that stretch to end in 2026. All of this to say, yes this is MyTeam and I look forward to the ups and downs of next season. To not attend games or watch the Twins would hurt me and the product more than it affects the owners and powers that be. If the goal is to watch only World Series Twins baseball, well it could be a long wait and made longer. Downvote me, or whatever. To those that love Twins baseball, don’t give up. I assure you better days are ahead.
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I agree with you, blind or false hope is not good. If this is our roster on opening day, we will be in trouble. I’m counting on our FO to make additions and improvements to our 26 man. I just fear a complete overhaul/rebuild. More times than not it becomes a long road back to respectability. Prospects are always going to be more miss than hit and it can become a constant churn and burn of resources. I expect the FO either figures out and improves our development process, or we will be replacing them soon as well.
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I do have a pretty good idea of a few of your posts over the last few offseason. So you assume wrong. I usually enjoyed your comments due to the optimism and outlay and reasoning behind many them. I guess the sudden change in your outlook took me by surprise. The recent about face from opinionated optimistic support to the less than optimistic view maybe warranted for sure. But I miss the optimism…. Not that my opinion matters.
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No offense but you may have the words optimistic and pessimistic mixed up?
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I hear ya and have some valid points. However, our roster is not set, he would b better than Vasquez, so that is an upgrade. But who’s to say he’s on the roster come April. My point is , are we supposed to be angry about every secondary move? That would make for a long season.
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I believe the point of this trade is to hold on wait for it…. bring in a back up catcher. Nothing more, nothing less. It’s just a back up catcher.
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Soooo if I got this correct. We are upset and concerned about what he did not say. While also being outraged by what he did say. Maybe pick a lane? Or just be angry at everything…. I guess it adds to clicks, comments and the bottom line. Wait are we not also outraged about the Pohlands adding to the bottom line?
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Another article about the same subject. Feed the beast TD. Meanwhile in real baseball, a great World Series. Emma is healthy and playing baseball. But yet TD reports on neither. I honestly wonder if this sight even knows these aforementioned activities are happening.
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You definitely did not upset me, however you did try so please don’t say you didn’t try to be hateful. Saying fans like me are the reason the Twins do not commit to winning is absurd, I just hope you see that. MY SUPPORT IS GEARED 100 PERCENT TO THE PLAYERS. I have made life long friends with. a few of them. I enjoy the game and am able to objectively separate my emotions and feeling from the owners to the players. If you disagree with any of this, it’ becomes a you problem, as you are welcome to your opinion.
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So you won’t attend a Twins game or watch them because you don’t want to spend the money supporting them. But yet you spend your time as a moderator of a Twins Fan sight? That’s weird considering time is more valuable than money. Tell me you don’t have a clue without telling me you have no clue.
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So, I’m the reason they are not dedicated to winning. Got it. Now it all makes sense now.
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Forget it. You know what? Your opinions honestly don’t matter to me.
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You sound like part of the problem though, not part of the solution.. You did put words in my mouth the first time you quoted me. I kindly asked you not to is all. No need to be condescending towards me however. I stopped reading when you went off the rails. But it sounds like to me you actually pinch your Pennies more than the Pohlands do. Enjoy listening to the Twins on your transistor radio and then complaining about them on here. Sounds like a great solution.. How has that worked out for you so far?
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Ok then in your opinion, were would the Twins need to rank in the American League to draw over 2 million fans? Would they need to win 100 games like 19 when they drew 2.3? The regurgitated phrase I was referencing was the Pohlands suck and Falvey is the worst. So please don’t twist m words. And what about the not close to sell out of home playoff games? Did Falvey prevent that also? I’m not defending ownership or Falvey. There is plenty room for improvement across the board in the organization. But I will always support my team. That is our own personal decision. But if we choose not to support them how much does it help by choosing that path and expecting payroll to increase while coming on message boards and regurgitating the Pohlands are cheap and Falvey is the worst.. Also you kind of made my point that fan disinterest started prior to the 2023 offseason.
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Agree 100 percent. It was definitely an incomprehensible statement to come out and say we need to “right size” our payroll.. And numerous questionable decisions for sure to say the least. And in hindsight the Correa signing did not work out for us long term. But I do appreciate the effort.
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Other than the fact April record was better than August and July was similar as well .After an offseason of acquiring Pablo.. Then of course the empty seats for home playoff games. I agree winning will bring in more fans. But our payroll has always been related to the years previous attendance. But to say fans became disinterested after 2023, to me it sounds like most were disinterested before the 2023 season started going by attendance figures..
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In 2023 the Blue Jays drew over 3 million fans to the ballpark. The Twins drew under 2 million. Do the math. Way too many empty seats in a season of fun baseball and playoff baseball. Are we positive this didn’t contribute to the 25 million dollar decrease in payroll. Attendance went up just over 100,000 from 2022 to 2023. The cold reality is fun winning playoff baseball didn’t put substantially more butts in the seats.. Context and facts should matter still. I get it though, it’s just easier to simply regurgitate the Poland’s are cheap and Levine is the worst.
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Will really be pulling for The Surge to make the playoffs. I know it means so much to those in player development as well as the players. But n AA.
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I could be wrong, but I was always under the assumption that payroll was based on the previous seasons revenue. I know it was in multiple articles here on TD a few years back. Part of revenue is based on attendance and TV/Streaming revenue. In 2023 and 2024 payrolls exceeded most of our expectations and I’m sure exceeded the designated percentage of revenue. The Streaming money went down, the viewership when down, and the attendance went down. Even in 2023 attendance was not good in my opinion considering we were a competitive and fun team and couldn’t sell out home playoff games.. Considering the Twins revenue really dropped this year, Going off history, yes I’d expect payroll to drop again for next season. I expect most organizations also follow the same structure. Yes there are outliers. As a fan I hate it, But will make the best of it I guess. Were I live out of state it’s mostly relocated Yankee fans. They all are amazed of my stubborn loyalty to the Twins, considering I wasn’t born there. I’ve been told I should seek professional help, sarcastically I think. Loyalty is one of my best qualities, but in this case it may be my worst trait.
