yeah you're right. Its just that without checking Verlander's career numbers, I was not aware that seeing his name on the lineup card meant nobody has a chance to beat him. Now I am second guessing myself as to why we didn't just start Cave, Wade, and Andreoli in the outfield. Telis at catcher, Rosales at short, Cesar at third, Arriaz at second and Adrianza at first. Maybe we could have rushed Sano back to dh to get some real confidence boosting at bats. They all could have car pooled from Rochester to save money and the rest of the team could have come home a day early so they could have 2 days off instead of one. These games matter in the final standings. That hasn't changed and it never will. If a team wants to win, they have to want it ALL year. If they dont, then they stay "glued" and accept their butt whipping. (all sarcasm in this post is free of charge) To say "well we had no chance anyway" is just a cop out and making excuses for a losing mind set.