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  1. Thing is, the Vikings sure never have a problem getting the free agents they want. Regardless where they live or family lives etc. That's because if they decide they want someone, they pay top dollar and get them. Big difference when you are the top bidder vs someone halfway down the line.
  2. He's right. Liriano didn't pitch in the postseason for the Twins until 2009. By this time he had already blown out his arm and had TJ surgery.
  3. You could be right, but it's my opinion the Twins have never had any intention of signing any of the top 4 guys. They can do all the talking and looking good they want, but most likely, they aren't serious about it. To be honest, right now is the time to get Pineda locked up. You need at least him whether you sign another guy or not. Don't let him get away wasting time on a guy you aren't likely to get. If you really are serious about Madbum. Make an offer over the top of what his agent tells you he will sign for and get to work on the others. If you aren't, then just pivot right over to Pineda and start looking hard and deep for a guy you can trade for.
  4. Our top 4-5 guys are out of the picture, most likely. They are untouchable. So if a trade is made, you will get the same kind of value back that you are willing to give up. If a trade is made, expect it to be for a bounce back candidate, or innings eating #4-5 starter type. On top of that, there aren't a ton of teams willing to move their #1 or 2 guy to begin with before the season, no matter what the offer.
  5. You guys are correct. The Twins are a landing spot for FA's that don't have a ton of interest from anyone else. If we have to bid against someone else, or go above what we deem as fair value for a player, count them out. Look at it this way. When Bumgarner signs somewhere at least we will get to hear the Twins are "IN" on Strasburg and Cole for a couple weeks before they sign with one of the big boys. LOL
  6. The thing is, you will have to overpay EVERY SINGLE TIME in free agency if you are looking for high end starting pitching. We all know that, the front office knows that. When you really NEED something and you identify a piece there that fits and you have determined it is the BEST piece for you, you need to go get it, no matter what it takes. Or, the alternative is to be left with what will end up happening, signing someone that is middling to average. There literally isn't another contending team in the league that needs starting pitching more than the Twins. They know that, everyone else knows it. The price will be steep. Either commit yourself to actually go get it, or tell everyone up front you are not looking to play that game and quit wasting time and work on trades and developing your guys. Don't come out and tell us how you are going to add impact pitching and come out with a token offer 20 million below what your prize actually signed for. Twins knew the market, they knew he wasn't signing for 5/100. Token, we tried offer is all it was.
  7. Yes, the same one that employed Jason Tyner at DH.
  8. LOL. I've just seen it for too many years. We all watched the last core of great Twins turn into nothing but a few division championships and playoff sweeps. We saw the core before that turn in one playoff series win. All the while they protected their pocketbooks and prospects and just ended up with a bunch of losing sandwiched between those division titles. I prefer to go for it. We all know the time is now. Why not us?
  9. Just so you know. His family is from the east coast. His uncle also runs an applebees in Los Angeles. LOL
  10. They might do it. Although Swedish fish might be a good counter.
  11. Yep. No chance. As in Zero. Well, maybe lets give them 5%. Start perusing the FA pitchers with ERA's in the 4.5-5.5 range. There you will find your champion.
  12. "He was asking too much", "We tried", "He didn't want to play here", "He wanted to stay closer to home" Carl's ghost thanks you and is in your corner. What will they say when Madbum turns them down?
  13. Understand he will command 100 mill as well. Twins will value him well below that. Expect to hear they are "IN" on him for a week until he signs with someone else. Twins will "try" though. LOL
  14. He won't play for cracker jacks and peanut shells. I doubt we get him.
  15. I'd rather them trot out rookies with good stuff than sign dumpster garbage #4-5 guys. That is what will likely happen. Terry Ryan will be listening with open ears. He may even make a phone call to see if they need any help identifying the next 37 year old starter that throws 88.
  16. Hamels is also gone now. Cole and Strasburg will go to east coast and west coast teams. Madbum and Ryu are there best chances, but with how many were in on Wheeler, I'd say Twins will get smoked on them as well. Thanks Dougie for the tweet backing up the Twins. I will wait to hear LaVelle's as well patting them on the back for "trying". LOL
  17. Yep, just like last season. When asked for prospects for high end pitching, Twins turn tail and run. They are just as stingy with those guys as they are with their money. Don't count on a blockbuster.
  18. I get where you are coming from, but don't the Twins, with the roster they have, owe it to their team and fans to get some high end pitching in here? We know it's going to be an overpay. But they have the money or prospects if needed. OVERPAY if you have to. Every ones of those teams you mention has, in their history went out and bought a stud. All of them. I'm not asking for the moon every season, but the position the Twins are in right now 100% warrants them spending big, or trading big to get over the hump. If not now, it will never happen.
  19. Boy, what a lineup of studs there. A gaggle of #4 starters in the third tier of free agents. Bargain shopping. Yes, they overpaid for Nolasco, but at best he was a #3 starter. This doesn't do anything to make me confident they will go after someone real.
  20. Why posturing? To make the fans feel as if they are actually gonna open the pocket books. Public relations. Some people eat it up that we are "IN" on someone. I didn't say it was a bad idea to not offer Darvish 6 years. That said, this is a recurring theme with our favorite team. If it takes so and so amount to sign these guys, we offer in just below that value and say "we tried".
  21. Didn't get it done as per usual with Twins in FA negotiations for players in the top 1/3 or so of the list. Token.
  22. And he signed for 126 million. Token offer me boy. I know some haven't been around for long, but until they do something different. It will always be the same old same old around this team. Johan Santana was offered a hefty contract also, so was Tori Hunter. Problem being it wasn't market value. Can a tiger change its stripes? Is this a new front office? Yep, it sure is and for that I will hold out hope. What I expect to happen and what I hope happen though are 2 different things.
  23. Yep. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/12/zack-wheeler-bidding-already-in-nine-figures.html IMO, this takes the Twins out of the running. Just too many teams to overbid and we are too cheap. We wanted a tier 1 pitcher, would settle for a tier-2 guy, but get ready folks, tier 3 it is. One step up from the dumpster. That is my prediction. Hope I'm wrong.
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