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Everything posted by Brock Beauchamp
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Article: Twins, Rockies Talk Tulowitzki
Brock Beauchamp replied to Jeremy Nygaard's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I prize Berrios so much because he's capable of two things I value more than Tulo: 1. Becoming a legit #2 as early as next season. 2. He's the best bet to acquire a legit catcher. -
Article: Twins, Rockies Talk Tulowitzki
Brock Beauchamp replied to Jeremy Nygaard's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
They had a guy. They traded him away and inexplicably brought him back as an outfielder last season. How about this? Tulo for Kepler, Polanco, and Meyer. Do the Rockies listen? Probably not but that's a deal I could get behind. -
Article: Twins, Rockies Talk Tulowitzki
Brock Beauchamp replied to Jeremy Nygaard's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Yeah, I'm the baseball pleb, Mr. UZR/150 over a 15 game sample size. It depends on what Tulo costs. If there's a way to get him without giving up Sano or Buxton, you have to at least give it thought... But really, the biggest long-term gains for this team will be made at catcher. Any prospect traded for Tulo is a prospect you can't trade for a guy like LuCroy or Susac or whomever. Plouffe/Arcia isn't going to get you a catcher because a team looking to move a catcher probably isn't interested in Plouffe (ie. they're in a rebuilding phase) and Arcia isn't enough to get a good return. Berrios is your best bankable chip to get a catcher and the Twins need a long-term solution at the position. The Twins don't need a catcher in 2015. They need a catcher in 2015, 2016, 2017... But can you really say the same thing with certainty about shortstop? I can't. The Twins have three viable, though questionable, options at shortstop. They have zero options at catcher. -
Article: Twins, Rockies Talk Tulowitzki
Brock Beauchamp replied to Jeremy Nygaard's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I'll give you 2016 but it gets murky after that and I seriously doubt Tulo is a critical piece of the 2019 World Champion Minnesota Twins. -
Article: Twins, Rockies Talk Tulowitzki
Brock Beauchamp replied to Jeremy Nygaard's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
My eyes and defensive metrics disagree with you. Escobar is a middling defensive shortstop (career -3 DRS, 1.8 UZR). His bat is one of a middling offensive shortstop. As a stop-gap player, that's just fine, particularly when you have a sucking black hole at starting catcher and a bullpen that last struck out the side during the Carter administration. -
Article: Twins, Rockies Talk Tulowitzki
Brock Beauchamp replied to Jeremy Nygaard's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
What both sides are ignoring is that there's a huge middle ground between "punt" and "all-in". I'm all for tempered, rational acquisitions to keep the team in the hunt this season. What I'm against is pushing all the chips into the middle of the table. -
Article: Twins, Rockies Talk Tulowitzki
Brock Beauchamp replied to Jeremy Nygaard's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
This. So much this. I rarely get furious at the Twins but I'm approaching that point with Escobar. There's no good &^%$ing reason why he isn't the starting SS. -
Article: Twins, Rockies Talk Tulowitzki
Brock Beauchamp replied to Jeremy Nygaard's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
If you're fine with the .819 road OPS, that's a fair argument. But don't expect better than that. Because the dip comes from BA, it therefore impacts both OBP and SLG. That means if Tulo only hits extra singles in Coors that he doesn't hit on the road (which we know is silly), roughly .100 of his .150 OPS home/road split is due to that drop in batting average (.050 in OBP, .050 in SLG). -
Article: Twins, Rockies Talk Tulowitzki
Brock Beauchamp replied to Jeremy Nygaard's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I'm all in on a catcher now. They need to let the rotation play out. The bullpen needs help. That's how I'd approach this July and the offseason. I think the Twins should try to incrementally improve the team right now and they should definitely improve the team this offseason. They won't have the same players next season. Every single player that matters is under control for 2016 and Buxton/Sano have a total of 110 PAs in a Twins uniform. Also, both are injured right now. -
Article: Twins, Rockies Talk Tulowitzki
Brock Beauchamp replied to Jeremy Nygaard's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Did you just use UZR/150 over a 150 inning sample size? -
Article: Twins, Rockies Talk Tulowitzki
Brock Beauchamp replied to Jeremy Nygaard's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
It wasn't a comparison to Walker or even an attempt to diminish Tulo's ability. It's a fact that players coming out of Coors often suffer a large decline in batting average because they no longer get to spray balls into an outfield the size a Wal-Mart parking lot. Or maybe you can explain why the Rockies, as a team, perennially have a .070-.110 drop in batting average between their home and road games. Or maybe you can explain why the Rockies lead the NL in home batting average almost every single year, yet rarely crack the top half of the NL in road batting average. -
Article: Twins, Rockies Talk Tulowitzki
Brock Beauchamp replied to Jeremy Nygaard's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Santana should not be the starting shortstop. Escobar should not be in left field, which is where a large portion of that negative WAR comes from. 2/3rds of Escobar's 2015 innings have come in LF, which is beyond aggravating. He has the equivalent of about 15 games at short this season (begins pounding face on desk because just typing that number is so aggravating). Last season, Escobar was a 2.5 WAR player in 2/3rds of a season. So, yeah. Absolutely preposterous, Dave. -
Article: Twins, Rockies Talk Tulowitzki
Brock Beauchamp replied to Jeremy Nygaard's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
That's not really the problem with players coming out of Coors. It's the batting average. Larry Walker had this same issue. Tulo's home/road BA difference: .047 Moving him out of the NL West is not going to improve his batting average. Hell, last season the Rockies team had almost a full .100 batting average difference in their home/road splits. This season it's still around .070-.080. -
Article: Twins, Rockies Talk Tulowitzki
Brock Beauchamp replied to Jeremy Nygaard's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Absolutely, but it's not much (if any) more difficult than trying to negotiate a trade for Tulo. Catchers are out there, the Twins just have to make sure they're first in line at the discussion table. -
Article: Twins, Rockies Talk Tulowitzki
Brock Beauchamp replied to Jeremy Nygaard's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
It's about opportunity cost. The Twins need Berrios because their rotation isn't young enough or good enough yet and after Jose, there's no help on the horizon for at least 12 months, probably more like 24 months. The Twins also have a handful of decent, though unspectacular, shortstops. One of them should be able to fill the void for a year or two. If we were talking about a good catcher, Berrios is definitely on the table because the Twins have other starting pitching prospects but absolutely zero legitimate catching prospects. But for a 30 year old shortstop? No, I don't think that's a good use of resources. Tulo may be a 5 WAR player but a 2 WAR catcher has the same net effect for the Minnesota Twins and there's zero chance the catching situation will improve in 2015 or 2016 unless Pinto magically stops being awful behind the dish. So go find a catcher. Chances are it might not even cost you Berrios. You might be able to get it done for Kepler + stuff. You make the same net team improvement but you get to keep your "big three" in the process and you're not on the hook for nearly $100m during a decline phase. -
Article: Twins, Rockies Talk Tulowitzki
Brock Beauchamp replied to Jeremy Nygaard's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Sano has a sprained ankle and 53 MLB PAs. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. The kid will be good but let's see how he does when MLB pitchers start throwing him nothing but junk. Gibson, Hughes, and May are a completely underwhelming playoff rotation. Couple that rotation with the "OMG, please pitch a CGSO" bullpen and you have a one-and-done recipe. -
Article: Twins, Rockies Talk Tulowitzki
Brock Beauchamp replied to Jeremy Nygaard's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
If only money was involved, I'd be all over Tulo. But it's not only money. It's $94m plus one of Sano, Buxton, or Berrios (barring any ridiculous magic tricks pulled by Ryan). That's a price I'm not willing to pay on a team that I feel is more pretender than contender. -
Article: Twins, Rockies Talk Tulowitzki
Brock Beauchamp replied to Jeremy Nygaard's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I don't want to make the playoffs, I want to win in the playoffs. This Twins team doesn't have much over 100 PAs from their two top 10 prospects. Their best chance of winning in the playoffs is by keeping their best young players and letting them mature. This team is a few games UNDER .500 over the past 6-8 weeks. Every player who matters is under control in 2016. This is not yet a solid team. It's a lucky team with significant flaws. If Buxton and Sano thrive and turn into solid players, I'm all for banking a few prospects for a Tulo type player but right now, it seems really premature, especially when you have to give up one of Buxton, Sano, or Berrios to get Tulo in the first place. -
Article: Twins, Rockies Talk Tulowitzki
Brock Beauchamp replied to Jeremy Nygaard's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Playing to win only makes sense when you feel you have a solid foundation, not because you're eight games over .500 largely due to luck and good timing. If the Twins pick up Tulo, they still don't have a competent playoff rotation, they still have huge question marks in the outfield and DH, and they still have a giant blackhole at catcher. If anything, all of those problems are worse because you had to give up so much to get Tulo in the first place. He's a good player and I'd love to see the Twins acquire someone of his ability but the team is too flawed and the price too great to pull the trigger on that move in 2015. I mean, if they can somehow manage to convince the Rockies to take a bunch of expendable players in the deal (Meyer, Polanco, Kepler), then yeah, you do that... but that's not reality. The price for Tulo is going to start with Buxton, Sano, or Berrios. That's too steep a price on a flawed Twins team. They need those pieces to round out all those flaws. -
Article: Twins, Rockies Talk Tulowitzki
Brock Beauchamp replied to Jeremy Nygaard's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Tulo is a great player but I see a lot of downside in him and not much upside. He's in his age 30 season. As a shortstop, that's getting a little long in the tooth. Unsurprisingly, defensive metrics aren't a fan of a 30 year old shortstop. From 2007-2011, Tulo had a +77 DRS. That's great! From 2012-2015, it's +6. Good but definitely not anything close to great. Tulo has a .958 home OPS and an .819 road OPS for his career. Shocking. He's very good outside Coors Field but he's far from great. His home numbers are skewing the overall perception of him as a player and that's not even factoring in diminishing returns as he ages through his 30s. He is guaranteed $94m through 2020 with a $15m option for 2021. He will be 36 years old at that point. Again, Tulo is a great player right now. I don't think the Twins should be prioritizing "right now" that heavily, especially when that prioritization will hurt in later years. -
Article: Examining The Shortstop Options
Brock Beauchamp replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I agree with all of this. The thing is that still makes him the best Twins SS option by a healthy margin.- 119 replies
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Article: Examining The Shortstop Options
Brock Beauchamp replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
To be perfectly frank, shortstop isn't even on my radar beyond "start Escobar already... what the hell is wrong with you guys?" Unlike catcher and the bullpen, the Twins have internal options at short that have either proven the ability to competently play the position (Escobar) or have enough upside to warrant a roll of the dice (Polanco). I'd go with Escobar but whatever... choosing Polanco wouldn't make me mad or anything. The Twins also have internal bullpen options but they refuse to use them for some reason. It's... confusing. So, catcher. Go find a catcher.- 119 replies
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Yeah, I didn't find that article discouraging at all. By all accounts, the Twins like Kurt Suzuki the human being. They're not going to publicly trash the guy, particularly when they literally have zero other viable options at the position. The article leads off by saying the Twins are following a handful of catchers. I find that somewhat promising and that it's possible, maybe even likely, they think catcher is the biggest deficiency of the team right now (you can make an argument for the pen but I think catcher and bullpen are in lock-step as 1a and 1b in the problem dept.). But they need to find another catcher before April of 2016. If Suzuki starts the season behind the dish again, it's likely his option year vests and that's a bad position to be in to start 2017.

