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    MIN 14, NYM 8: Beating the Best


    Tom Froemming

    Jacob deGrom is the best pitcher in baseball. It’s not often you can make such a definitive statement like that and feel so certain you’re delivering the truth.

    The Twins beat the best pitcher in baseball tonight. In fact, they crushed him. deGrom entered tonight’s game on one of the best streaks in baseball history. He was dismantled by the Twins.

    Image courtesy of © Brad Penner-USA TODAY Sports

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    Box Score

    Gibson: 4.2 IP, 6 H, 3 ER, 3 BB, 6 K, 53.6% strikes

    Home Runs: Garver 2 (2), Rosario (2), Schoop 2 (2), Polanco (2)

    Multi-Hit Games: Garver (4-for-5, 2 HR), Polanco (3-for-5, 3B, HR), Schoop (2-for-5, 2 HR), Rosario (2-for-4, 2B, HR, BB), Buxton (2-for-5, 2 2B)

    WPA of +0.1: .184 Garver, Polanco .163, Rosario .155

    WPA of -0.1: -.140 Gibson

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    (chart via FanGraphs)

    deGrom not only won the Cy Young last season, he even finished fifth in NL MVP voting. He had 26 consecutive quality starts heading into tonight’s game, which tied Bob Gibson’s record. He had a scoreless streak of 26 innings and had gone 41 starts without allowing multiple home runs coming into tonight.

    All those streaks are over.

    The Twins tagged deGrom for six runs, all earned, on eight hits and a walk. Mitch Garver took him deep twice and Eddie Rosario also homered off him.

    https://twitter.com/TFTwins/status/1115808444370567168

    This is Garver’s first multi-homer game, which apparently is the result of him doing some extra homework. If it looked like he was prepared for that pitch on his first home run, it’s because he was.

    https://twitter.com/TheSGonsalves/status/1115764798044635142

    This Twins lineup has had some hiccups early, and playing without Nelson Cruz in these National League games hasn’t helped, but tonight they proved that when they’re rolling, even the best pitcher in baseball can’t hold them down.

    Listening to much of tonight’s game on the radio, I couldn’t tell if all the sounds coming through the background were the roar of airplanes taking off from LaGuardia Airport or screaming baseballs flying out of Citi Field. In addition to the three homers hit off deGrom, Jonathan Schoop hit his first two home runs with the Twins, Jorge Polanco added another and the Mets slugged four homers of their own.

    Byron Buxton didn’t go deep, but he did hit a couple of laser beams for doubles. That gives him five extra-base hits in eight games played so far this season, which is more than he had in 28 games all of last year.

    This game ended up a blowout, but it appeared for a moment in the middle innings that the Mets were on the verge of mounting a comeback. Kyle Gibson was laboring in the fifth inning with the Twins up 6-3. He gave up a leadoff double, retired the next two batters but then walked the bases loaded.

    Twins manager Rocco Baldelli went to the pen and Trevor Hildenberger retired the only batter he would face on the night to end the threat. After Trevor May pitched a scoreless sixth inning Adalberto Mejia got the first two outs of the seventh, then Baldelli called on Blake Parker, which was interesting since we had not seen him used prior to the ninth inning yet.

    Once the Twins broke open a bigger lead, Sire of Fort Myers/30-year-old rookie/Hero of Men Ryne Harper was called upon, followed by Chase De Jong. Harper has now pitched 3 ⅓ scoreless innings for the Twins. De Jong … just never mind what De Jong did tonight ...

    Anyway, so it was almost as if Baldelli managed his bullpen backwards tonight, which I’d like to see more often when the Twins are holding a lead. Why save anyone for the eighth or ninth innings when you have no idea if your opponent will even be within striking distance at that point?

    This was a great game in what’s been a great start to the 2019 season. This win ensured the Twins will have a winning road trip, so it’s as if they’ll be playing with house money against Noah Syndergaard tomorrow.

    Bullpen Usage

    Here’s a quick look at the number of pitches thrown by the bullpen over the past five days:

    Bullpen49.png

    Next Three Games

    Wed at NYM, 6:10 pm CT (Odorizzi-Syndergaard)

    Fri vs. DET, 7:10 pm CT (TBD)

    Sat vs. DET, 1:10 pm CT (TBD)

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    It is a little late posting this.  I was at the game last night with my son.  And had a seat several rows behind the Mets dugout.  Several observations that have not been discussed.  

     

    I thought Kepler has 2 very good at bats last night, with only a single to show for it.  First inning, he had a 7 pitch at bat leading off the game (ending in a SO).  This kind of set the tone for the Twins batters.  There were alot of quality at bat against deGrom. The 4th inning he had a similarly good at bat before getting a single.

     

    Buxton looks very good.  Except for the last at bat (which was poor in part because he looked like he was trying to hit a HR) he had some quality at bats.

     

    Astudillo seems a little slow to the ball at first base.  Two plays in particular.  The ball that glanced off Astudillo's glove and both Schoop and Gibson made a combined great play. And a double down the first base line (I don't remember the innings for either play).  I thought Astudillo should have gotten to both balls.  

     

    The fans in NY can be quite ruthless.  After Peter Alonso made and error, some of fans were yelling "See you in Syracuse" (Mets AAA) as he was coming off the field.  He is only hitting 0.385.  There were other comments directed toward Cano and d'Arnaud that I can't write here.  

     

    It was bone chilling cold and Citi Field.  I never realized the 50 degrees could feel so cold (and I thought we had dressed properly).  When the game ended at 11:45, there were only about 1000 fans left in the stands.  I thought the ushers were a little too aggressive in preventing fans from moving down during the last couple to innings.  There were so few fans left and it was so cold, I thought it would have been a nice gesture.  

     

     

     

     

     

    I did no such thing. I am talking about the future of the ball club. Whether he is good the rest of the year or not, we know what his tendencies are. Let some other team take the risk on a 32 year old pitcher who has been mediocre most of the time.

     

    except he wasn't mediocre last season. He was almost as good as Berrios, and nearly racked up 200 innings. He also reinvented his approach pretty thoroughly last season, so it changes our information about his track record, and Im sorry, it's absolutely absurd to judge anything about him based on his first 2 starts when it's obvious that he's not fully recovered from the E.Coli. It takes time to rebuild stamina, especially when you drop that much weight in a hurry.

    except he wasn't mediocre last season. He was almost as good as Berrios, and nearly racked up 200 innings. He also reinvented his approach pretty thoroughly last season, so it changes our information about his track record, and Im sorry, it's absolutely absurd to judge anything about him based on his first 2 starts when it's obvious that he's not fully recovered from the E.Coli. It takes time to rebuild stamina, especially when you drop that much weight in a hurry.

    You might be right.

    But if you are, he should be recovering on a rehab stint in AAA, not in big league games.

     

    I'm not sure, but this seems kind of petty, or judgmental, of people that have hobbies outside the game.....

     

    Not at all, those young men can have at their video games.

     

    Seth said "I'm sure you recall", which I assumed was tongue in cheek because I would absolutely not recall considering my total lack of interest in e-sports.

     

    I don't think teams evaluate players for trades based on how well they did in their last game.
    Garver's trade value is exactly the same as it was at this time yesterday.

    I wasn't really being serious (the tongue was in the cheek). Just commenting about the post related to trading Castro. Yes, I understand trade values don't go up from one game. 

    Edited by cmoss84

     

    It is a little late posting this.  I was at the game last night with my son.  And had a seat several rows behind the Mets dugout.  Several observations that have not been discussed.  

     

    I thought Kepler has 2 very good at bats last night, with only a single to show for it.  First inning, he had a 7 pitch at bat leading off the game (ending in a SO).  This kind of set the tone for the Twins batters.  There were alot of quality at bat against deGrom. The 4th inning he had a similarly good at bat before getting a single.

     

    Buxton looks very good.  Except for the last at bat (which was poor in part because he looked like he was trying to hit a HR) he had some quality at bats.

     

    Astudillo seems a little slow to the ball at first base.  Two plays in particular.  The ball that glanced off Astudillo's glove and both Schoop and Gibson made a combined great play. And a double down the first base line (I don't remember the innings for either play).  I thought Astudillo should have gotten to both balls.  

     

    The fans in NY can be quite ruthless.  After Peter Alonso made and error, some of fans were yelling "See you in Syracuse" (Mets AAA) as he was coming off the field.  He is only hitting 0.385.  There were other comments directed toward Cano and d'Arnaud that I can't write here.  

     

    It was bone chilling cold and Citi Field.  I never realized the 50 degrees could feel so cold (and I thought we had dressed properly).  When the game ended at 11:45, there were only about 1000 fans left in the stands.  I thought the ushers were a little too aggressive in preventing fans from moving down during the last couple to innings.  There were so few fans left and it was so cold, I thought it would have been a nice gesture.  

    Hey, I give you credit:  I chickened out of going because of the cold (it was supposed to be in the high 50s and yet game time was 46 degrees and very damp).  And that was a shame about the ushers.  Glad you saw a win, at least.  

     

    except he wasn't mediocre last season. He was almost as good as Berrios, and nearly racked up 200 innings. He also reinvented his approach pretty thoroughly last season, so it changes our information about his track record, and Im sorry, it's absolutely absurd to judge anything about him based on his first 2 starts when it's obvious that he's not fully recovered from the E.Coli. It takes time to rebuild stamina, especially when you drop that much weight in a hurry.

     

    So the Twins should lose games because Gibson should be on the DL but isn't?




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