BREAKING: Twins Agree to One-Year Deal With Outfielder Harrison Bader

8 minutes ago, NYCTK said:

No. They absolutely could not have. This isn't a video game. 

You understand the players have agency, right? Pete Alonso wanted to remain a Met. And Boras worked out a deal to allow him to do so for a bit longer. 

They could afford it. You know exactly what I mean. There's a whole lot of players that want to remain on Team X and don't. That's a nonsense argument. Correa wanted to remain an Astro. How'd that turn out? Bregman also wants to remain an Astro and that's very much up in the air.

If the Twins offered him a 6 year, $180 million deal he'd be a Twin. They wouldn't do that, but this idea that he was never going anywhere else is nonsense. Players leave the teams they want to be on all the time. Like it's the main part of the offseason.

3 minutes ago, Riverbrian said:

Psst

Others are also affected or effected... whichever is accurate. 

Wallner, Larnach, Julien, Emma and Jenkins will only be able to reach the development level of at best always needing a 4 Million dollar Margot, 6 million dollar Farmer or 6 million dollar Bader on the roster. 

Thought I'd try help... You are doing fine... Keep fighting the good fight. 

I'm tired, boss.

9 hours ago, Vanimal46 said:

He certainly did not. And you’ll also be $10 million short. 

 

Thats a 1 year deal just like Correa's was. Yep, was 10 mil short. Was long on Alonso, though. And long on multiple other impact players if they were willing to go more than 1 year. The point is the same, they can get impact players if they stop paying multiple non-needle movers each and every year. They invest 25+ million in non-difference makers every year. And they end up being slightly below to slightly above average every year. Then everyone is disappointed. But, sure, let's keep rolling with all the non-impact moves that keep making no impact. It's been thrilling so far!

The Twins have averaged 83 wins a year in non-2020 seasons with this strategy. That includes a 101 win season. Its 80.5 wins without that season. Why anyone would want this to continue is beyond me. But to each their own. Let's keep watching a strategy designed to just make sure you aren't much worse than average keep us right around average. In an awful division. With 3 playoff game wins in 7 (8 if you include 2020) seasons. I want an title. Or at least a legit shot at one. Just not being bad doesn't do it for me. 

5 hours ago, USAFChief said:

The money spent on Bader, Coulombe and France is well short of Alonso, too. Well short. And that ignores the liklihood that Alonso wouldn't have signed with the Twins for similar money.

The Tigers offered Bregman a six year deal. He turned it down.

Your theory is a good one,  and I wish the Twins pursued top end free agents. 

But they can't do it by just "not signing little guys." The money doesn't add up.

The Twins are paying Vazquez, Paddack, Castro, Bader, Coulombe, and France about 33 mil. That's not "well short" of anyone but Bregman. Like last year when they paid Vazquez, Farmer, Santana, Paddack, DeSclafani, and Margot 32.25 mil. Or the year before when they paid Vazquez, Farmer, MAT, Pagan, Paddack (to rehab) and Gallo 32.85 million.

Now people will argue about each of these guys individually and can make very reasonable arguments about each and every one. And their failure to develop is the bigger problem. But my belief is that part of their struggles in developing is that they don't let young guys take their lumps and learn because they keep having  6 or so veterans on the team who don't raise the bar and they won't move on from no matter how they play. And I'd argue you could get reasonably close to the production of that collection of "talent" pretty easily with in house guys. Or you should be able to, at least.

You can get a defense only catcher for 3-6 mil. So, even if you go on the high end of that you have 27 mil to spend each of the last 3 years while still having your defense only catcher. Take another 3 mil for 4 league min deals and you have 24 million each of the last 3 years. That means you could've given out a 3 year deal 3 years ago and still be sitting here with that same real difference maker today.

I understand there's far more to it than this very simple breakdown, but I don't agree that the numbers don't add up. And I understand that this strategy comes with far more risk of the bottom falling out. But you're never going to win the world series by stacking up 6 guys making 4 to 12 mil a year who don't provide any real ceiling. In my opinion.