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    Are Surveyed Players Right to Call Carlos Correa Overrated?


    Cody Christie

    Carlos Correa has been a polarizing figure throughout his career, from Houston’s cheating scandal to his multi-offseason free agency saga. Fans and players view him through different lenses. Does that make him one of baseball's most overrated players?

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    Sports debates have been part of water cooler and barstool discussions for generations. Who is the GOAT? Who makes your favorite team’s Mount Rushmore? Media can drive the conversation in many of these areas, for better and worse. Current players fall into similar traps as fans, with the media and significant storylines shaping their opinions. Earlier this week, The Athletic posted the results of their annual player poll, which included a look at the game’s best players, best organizations, and various other topics.

    One question asked on the survey had mixed results, because some players hesitated to answer. Over 100 players were interviewed, but only 59 were willing to name someone as baseball’s most overrated player. Jazz Chisholm Jr.(20.3%), Anthony Rendon (10.2%), and Carlos Correa (6.7%) were the top three finishers. Mathematically, four players voted for Correa, while Chisholm Jr. (12) and Rendon (10) received double-digit votes. Chisholm is near the top of the list, with many questioning why he was picked as the cover athlete for MLB The Show 23. Rendon finishes second, after comments earlier this year about not enjoying playing baseball. 

    Let’s look into why Correa is featured so highly on the list, though, and discuss how he can move down the list in future years. 

    The Face of the Cheating Scandal
    Correa’s final year in Houston was when reports surfaced about the Astros' elaborate sign-stealing system, which helped them win the World Series. Some Astros players stood before the media and refused to answer questions. Correa took the opposite approach, and made himself available to the media to answer the tough questions. He was part of one of baseball’s biggest scandals, but he didn’t shy away from the mistakes made by that Houston team. Correa is a very smart player and is well-spoken in media interviews. It might have helped him more to take the approach some of his teammates adopted, but he understood the long-term ramifications.

    Fans mercilessly booed the Astros in the aftermath of the cheating scandal being revealed. Correa and other current/former Astros are still booed at stadiums, even by some fans who likely don’t know why they are displeased with the star shortstop. Other players hear the boos, and it is hard to ignore, which is one of the big reasons he’s viewed as overrated. 

    Free Agency Saga and Subsequent Poor Performance
    Another reason he is featured highly on this list is that Correa’s name was dragged through the muddied waters of free agency in back-to-back seasons. He headed to free agency after the 2021 season as one of the top players on the market. MLB owners locked out the players, and Correa was forced to wait until spring training to sign with a club. He was so frustrated with the process that he switched agents and joined Scott Boras’s growing group. Minnesota signed him to a record-breaking deal, with him fully intending to hit the open market following the 2022 campaign.

    Correa performed well in his first year with the Twins and hoped his second free-agent stint would improve. He agreed to massive contracts with the San Francisco Giants and New York Mets, but both deals collapsed because of concerns over his surgically repaired ankle. Eventually, the Twins re-signed him to a six-year, $200 million contract. Other players must have followed his free agency saga closely, and it was another knock against Correa. The first year of his new massive deal was marred by a plantar fasciitis injury that impacted him on both sides of the ball. He showed up big in October for the Twins, but other players might not pay as close of attention when their season ends.

    In the end, it was a small sample size of voters, and it speaks volumes that some players refused to answer this question. The prominence of Correa's mention in the subsequent article oversells the real extent to which the survey showed any resentment or doubt in his talent on the part of his counterparts throughout the league. Factors largely beyond his control (teams backing out of deals to which he had agreed and the injury-driven struggles in the first year of the deal that was finally consummated) set him up for this kind of list appearance, but it's a safe bet that just as many players (or more) quietly think of the smart, well-rounded Correa as underrated.

    Correa will get further away from the cheating scandal and his free agent debacle, which should remove him from the list in subsequent years. Other players behind him deserve more attention for their performance (or lack thereof). Correa can help his own narrative by performing well in the regular season and helping the Twins to win games in October.


    Is Correa one of baseball’s most overrated players? Who is the most overrated player on the Twins? Leave a comment and start the discussion, 

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    18 hours ago, chpettit19 said:

    What would that extra 33 million have gotten you? What if Lewis was at SS and Miranda was at 3B, what would you have spent the money on this offseason? And who would've been playing SS for the first 2 months of the season while Lewis was hurt?

    Farmer was the original plan before we resigned Correa, but no one knew Lewis was going to get injured out of the get-go. Correa could have gotten injured out of the get-go. Anybody can, but at the beginning of the season, that's not what people expected. As for who I would have signed, you can start with Sonny Gray with two-thirds of the money. Sonny is 8-4 with a 3.01 era for STL, an average team. 

    Just now, saviking said:

    Farmer was the original plan before we resigned Correa, but no one knew Lewis was going to get injured out of the get-go. Correa could have gotten injured out of the get-go. Anybody can, but at the beginning of the season, that's not what people expected. As for who I would have signed, you can start with Sonny Gray with two-thirds of the money. Sonny is 8-4 with a 3.01 era for STL, an average team. 

    Plus, Lee is knocking on the door to the majors right now and could take over SS, moving Lewis back to third and Miranda back to first. 

    3 minutes ago, saviking said:

    Farmer was the original plan before we resigned Correa, but no one knew Lewis was going to get injured out of the get-go. Correa could have gotten injured out of the get-go. Anybody can, but at the beginning of the season, that's not what people expected. As for who I would have signed, you can start with Sonny Gray with two-thirds of the money. Sonny is 8-4 with a 3.01 era for STL, an average team. 

     

    2 minutes ago, saviking said:

    Plus, Lee is knocking on the door to the majors right now and could take over SS, moving Lewis back to third and Miranda back to first. 

    Kyle Farmer as an everyday SS is a disaster of an idea. At this point he isn't even the backup shortstop. Royce Lewis has played 80 games in 3 seasons. He was expected to debut a year earlier even so if you really want to get into it he's played 80 games in 4 years. If you're not expecting him to get hurt you're not paying attention. At this point, he's no different than Buxton. Banking on him to be a 150+ games played guy is ignoring a whole lot of reality over 4 seasons. The injury happening on opening day isn't the point. If he'd miss June and July you're still stuck with no real SS. Nobody knew Miranda was going to bounce back like this either. If you're going to take the hindsight knowledge of his performance into account you don't get to ignore the hindsight knowledge of Lewis being hurt. Which was the far more predictable thing at the start of the year. Sonny could've been signed for the cost of Santana, Farmer, Margot, and Vazquez. It's far easier to replace all 4 of them than it is to replace Carlos Correa.

    Lee also missed the first 2 months of the season hurt. And he has a career .755 OPS at AAA. That's not "knocking on the door to the majors." Fans hope he's in the majors soon, and an above average player, but beyond prospect rankings and draft position he hasn't actually shown he can do that.

    If you believe Carlos Correa isn't worth his money I hope your stance is that the Twins should never sign any stars. This is what they cost. And he is a star. Building a team around only pre-arb and arb players is incredibly hard to do if you're trying to compete for the playoffs and World Series. 

    2 hours ago, chpettit19 said:

     

    Kyle Farmer as an everyday SS is a disaster of an idea. At this point he isn't even the backup shortstop. Royce Lewis has played 80 games in 3 seasons. He was expected to debut a year earlier even so if you really want to get into it he's played 80 games in 4 years. If you're not expecting him to get hurt you're not paying attention. At this point, he's no different than Buxton. Banking on him to be a 150+ games played guy is ignoring a whole lot of reality over 4 seasons. The injury happening on opening day isn't the point. If he'd miss June and July you're still stuck with no real SS. Nobody knew Miranda was going to bounce back like this either. If you're going to take the hindsight knowledge of his performance into account you don't get to ignore the hindsight knowledge of Lewis being hurt. Which was the far more predictable thing at the start of the year. Sonny could've been signed for the cost of Santana, Farmer, Margot, and Vazquez. It's far easier to replace all 4 of them than it is to replace Carlos Correa.

    Lee also missed the first 2 months of the season hurt. And he has a career .755 OPS at AAA. That's not "knocking on the door to the majors." Fans hope he's in the majors soon, and an above average player, but beyond prospect rankings and draft position he hasn't actually shown he can do that.

    If you believe Carlos Correa isn't worth his money I hope your stance is that the Twins should never sign any stars. This is what they cost. And he is a star. Building a team around only pre-arb and arb players is incredibly hard to do if you're trying to compete for the playoffs and World Series. 

    Then let's just agree to disagree.

    20 hours ago, chpettit19 said:

     

    Kyle Farmer as an everyday SS is a disaster of an idea. At this point he isn't even the backup shortstop. Royce Lewis has played 80 games in 3 seasons. He was expected to debut a year earlier even so if you really want to get into it he's played 80 games in 4 years. If you're not expecting him to get hurt you're not paying attention. At this point, he's no different than Buxton. Banking on him to be a 150+ games played guy is ignoring a whole lot of reality over 4 seasons. The injury happening on opening day isn't the point. If he'd miss June and July you're still stuck with no real SS. Nobody knew Miranda was going to bounce back like this either. If you're going to take the hindsight knowledge of his performance into account you don't get to ignore the hindsight knowledge of Lewis being hurt. Which was the far more predictable thing at the start of the year. Sonny could've been signed for the cost of Santana, Farmer, Margot, and Vazquez. It's far easier to replace all 4 of them than it is to replace Carlos Correa.

    Lee also missed the first 2 months of the season hurt. And he has a career .755 OPS at AAA. That's not "knocking on the door to the majors." Fans hope he's in the majors soon, and an above average player, but beyond prospect rankings and draft position he hasn't actually shown he can do that.

    If you believe Carlos Correa isn't worth his money I hope your stance is that the Twins should never sign any stars. This is what they cost. And he is a star. Building a team around only pre-arb and arb players is incredibly hard to do if you're trying to compete for the playoffs and World Series. 

    Attitude - leadership - availability……he was a young guy on a World Series winner…..there’s value in having him around our young roster guys!! Worth something - intangible.

    Availability & hindsight is the real flaw in the other guy’s comments as you point out……as well as your point of what star players really cost.

    Lee - Lewis both out nearly the entire season to date - Absolutely sunk if they were penciled in as the designated “starters” ………Miranda appears to be back and has the real potential to be a valuable flex player, ongoing. Nobody knew he would perform to this level!

    My question is how far back does one turn the clock for this “reversal move “? End of ‘22? Middle of ‘23? Just before playoffs start in ‘23? …….obviously, taking him off our roster weakens the line-up - our team attitude - the team depth changes greatly.

    They asked players; players don't pay contracts; I think now that the contract(s) have started and he's got some time with the team, perhaps the question asked of GMs/owners should be: "if Carlos Correa became available to your team at no cost other than fulfilling his current contract, do you want him"? What do you feel the % of 'takers' may be? I think that gives you a more clear answer (and yes, I realize that wasn't the question asked, I'm just surmising).

    Correa strikes me as possibly like the old saying about cocky guys such as AJ: "You hate him when he's in the opponents ' dugout, and you hate him a little less when he's in yours."

    No, I don't think it's actually quite like that, but this survey might be reflective of something along that line.




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