St. Paul’s Rotational Depth and the Emergence of Minnesota’s Pitching Pipeline

[bean5302]

Just in case anybody is wondering about "cherry picking"

https://www.institutedata.com/us/blog/cherry-picking-in-data-analytics/

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Cherry-picking in data analytics refers to the selective and biased extraction of data or information for analysis. This practice involves choosing specific data points or datasets that support a desired conclusion while disregarding or ignoring other relevant data that may contradict or challenge that conclusion.

 

[darin617]

On 2/28/2025 at 9:35 AM, Jeff K said:

I was thinking the same thing about Dobnak.  In fact, I want the best pitchers that aren't on the major league club in St. Paul (assuming they are ready).  Put Dobnak on the AA roster if necessary to make room for the promising youngsters.  Additionally, I don't agree with the article about Varland having potential as a starter.  He is a proven failure as a starter.  I do like him as a reliever and it seems the Twins have finally arrived on that point.

Just rip the band aid off and pay Randy to go away. There's no point on him taking up a roster spot. 

[Linus]

47 minutes ago, darin617 said:

Just rip the band aid off and pay Randy to go away. There's no point on him taking up a roster spot. 

He’s not.

[ryan189]

On 2/28/2025 at 11:59 AM, PatPfund said:

Louis (for spelling and his family, but you can call him Louie) wants to be an SP. My guess is the Twins will give him a stretched out workload in ST, and give him a chance to make his case (something that doesn't hurt the team). If he doesn't, he'll probably go to St Paul to work on RP development (he may have tools but his relief stats are homely). If Varland has great stretched out appearances he probably goes to St Paul anyway.

Adams got lit up in his first appearance, and if he doesn't right that ship quickly, he is an easy waive off of the 40-man (and unlikely to be claimed if that happens). Being on that roster is the only reason to give him AAA starts ahead of Festa, Matthews, Morris, Raya, Lewis, and maybe Varland and/or Ynoa. My guess he starts the year as the sixth starter (something needed to start), and then he and Dobnak do piggybacks on some of the other starts until stretching out finishes and MLB call-ups create gaps (which will happen).

Tonkin is a fungible arm; a decent MLB RP with the service time that you have to waive him to send him down, and not good enough that you might have to send him down. Nobody would trade much, because even if you can't get Tonkin, you can get someone like him. Twins are going to have to waive him at some point even if he makes the team, because they will need the flexibility/spot at some point.

No way I see Canterino in a rotation this year. If he has a healthy bullpen year, then maybe next year (unless he is so good that ends the convo... like Duran did a few years ago). Possibly Brock Stewart good or better. Definitely Brock Stewart fragile (or more?).

canterino is nasty just needs to stay healthy adams gave up four weak ground balls the line didn't look good but if you watch balls barely got out of infield and one hit was a error no chance he gets dfa

[darin617]

On 3/2/2025 at 4:28 PM, Linus said:

He’s not.

I should have said I meant in St Paul. 

[Linus]

9 hours ago, darin617 said:

I should have said I meant in St Paul. 

He’s not on the 40 man so his presence doesn’t really matter.  He won’t be taking opportunities from real prospects.

[darin617]

On 3/6/2025 at 8:28 AM, Linus said:

He’s not on the 40 man so his presence doesn’t really matter.  He won’t be taking opportunities from real prospects.

They have many young pitchers in St Paul. So he will be taking opportunities from players. Just pay him his money and let him go.