kab21 Verified Member Posted April 13, 2013 Posted April 13, 2013 When did I say I feel sorry for him?Something really, really, really, terrible would have to happen to a guy guaranteed over 100 million dollars for me to ever feel bad or sorry for them.I'm just saying that Quentin is at fault, 100%. Putting any of the blame on Grienke is a little like saying, "well its not her fault, but come on look at that skirt she was wearing..." Your comparison is truly awful. Greinke taunted him and wanted to fight. Quentin was not justified at all to start a fight but Greinke was a willing participant and got his shots in. All he needed to do was sidestep the out of control Quentin who would have been pounded by Greinke's teammates. I understand there is male need to engage someone like Quentin but he should also realize how important he is to his team.
biggentleben Verified Member Posted April 13, 2013 Posted April 13, 2013 Putting any of the blame on Grienke is a little like saying, "well its not her fault, but come on look at that skirt she was wearing..." The fact that you just used a rape analogy to attempt to support your point says so much. Unbelievable.
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted April 14, 2013 Posted April 14, 2013 The fact that you just used a rape analogy to attempt to support your point says so much. Unbelievable. I meant the blaming the victim aspect of it. Not the actual act itself. If you can't understand that is what I meant by it, then you are just trying to be outraged.
TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted April 14, 2013 Posted April 14, 2013 Seeing this bumped only reminds me how much I dislike Quentin. I hope all baseball pitchers, for the week he comes back, throw at his earhole until he gets the point. Back off the plate - or at least don't cry about it when you spin into inside pitches all the time.
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted April 14, 2013 Posted April 14, 2013 I don't care for either of those 2 (an ex-Royal and an ex-Sux). But here is what Jayson Stark tweeted earlier: Too much smoke for there not to be fire. Throwing at batters is part of the game and so are the consequences. They both should be suspended as well as others who participated on the brawl. Quentin gets HBP at a historically high rate. Of course Grienke has a higher HBP rate against him than he does overall! There is no smoke. I'm sure if you looked at every pitcher who has faced Quentin a lot (they were in same division), they have higher HBP rates against Quentin than they do overall. The guy stands right on top of the plate.
biggentleben Verified Member Posted April 15, 2013 Posted April 15, 2013 I meant the blaming the victim aspect of it. Not the actual act itself. If you can't understand that is what I meant by it, then you are just trying to be outraged. And if you cannot see the horrible connection you attempted to make, you truly may be worthy of outrage. As it stands, it's just logged for future reference as argument banter to refer to in future discussions. Along the lines of Mauer/Poser is equal to Lew Ford/Babe Ruth.
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