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7.31.12 - Judgement Day and the Return of Liriano

Tomorrow is July 31, 2012 and we all might have this date branded into our memory if things don't play out right.   Liriano: As we all know, Liriano pitches against us tomorrow, less than 3 days after we traded him. If real life was a movie in the making - this would be the stage for Liriano to throw a no hitter or a shutout with double digit K's.   Seemingly for most of us, this trade stung a bit and seemed unnecessary because of the return. Yeah, I get it... Liriano was not coming back after

Bark's Lounge

Bark's Lounge

2012 Draft Power Rankings-7/30/12

Here's my updated Twins 2012 Draft Power Rankings. I intended to update weekly, but I moved and was without internet for about a week which actually turns out nice, seems like Mondays would be a better day to update the rankings rather than Thursdays. Since the first look at our new prospects (on 7/19), five have began their professional careers. They are marked with an asterisk (*), and bring the total to 26 players. All stats were taken from BaseballReference.com and the stats for the play

Matt VS

Matt VS

Twins Trade Talk 2012: July 30

Originally published at The Tenth Inning Stretch ----   This continues the dialy trade talk updates for the Twins and of action around the league that influences the Twins trade moves, up until the deadline. You can find all the older updates here, in reverse chronological order. Here is the Twins Trade Talk the past 24 hours or so:     Fransisco Liriano to the Chicago White Sox is old news. Here are profiles of the players the Twins received in return. Apparently the Twins did not even t

Thrylos

Thrylos

Fans frustrated even when Liriano is dealt

Original post from North Dakota Twins Fan ~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-dIPIYAGfOY8/UBXy-kYuy4I/AAAAAAAADGE/zS9ZpCGr_NE/s320/mlb_g_franlts_576.jpg The moment many Twins fans had been waiting for over the course of the last week finally happened during the weekend; Francisco Liriano and his expiring contract were dealt away from the Twins. After seeing other teams walk away with huge halls for rental players like Liriano, the expectations were decently high for the Twins to pick up som

Cody Christie

Cody Christie

Well, Saturday Night Was Eventful

Originally posted at k-bro's baseball blog   I suppose you probably already know by now that the Twins traded Francisco Liriano, but I'm going to talk about it anyway.     As I was thinking about getting ready for bed on Saturday night (yeah, this was at about 10pm; I'm a fuddy-duddy), I went to check Twitter quick before plugging in my phone. And in the five minutes since I had previously checked Twitter, it had exploded with news that the Twins had traded Frankie to the White Sox.     Wai

Kirsten Brown

Kirsten Brown

Gleeman and the Geek: Ep 52 Liriano to the White Sox

Aaron and John talk about the Francisco Liriano trade, break down the prospects from the White Sox and the Twins' reasoning for the deal, get sad with Otis Redding, welcome back Danny Valencia, look ahead to potential other moves before the deadline, marvel at Lew Ford, update Alex Wimmers' health, and then John leaves and Aaron does a solo podcast with the help of Twitter questions. Here are:     the podcasts the rss feed if you want to subscribe and the podcast on iTunes.

John  Bonnes

John Bonnes

Liriano deal, Gardy, Valencia

The Liriano deal is done. When I heard this deal, and the timing of the deal I was quite surprised. First, why are we trading top tier potential pitching to the AL Central? Why are we trading before his next scheduled start? Are you sure there isn't going to be a better deal out there? I can't answer these questions but I can speculate. My speculation is that Liriano is hiding an injury, didn't want to take the chance at him putting a stinker out there vs the Indians and lose all value

rogrulz30

rogrulz30

Twins Daily commentors and my 2-year old

Ok. So Liriano has been traded to the White Sox for two marginal prospects. Let's look at at a few things we can assume to be correct:   1) The Twins were not going to offer Liriano the $12.5 mil qualifying offer at the end of the year. 2) The Twins do not want to roll the dice with Liriano in the future (ie long term contract). 3) The Twins made the best deal they could as the deadline approached. Like it or not, 2 low level prospects was it.   Now, Let's look at some facts: 1) $2 million sa

Twins GFP

Twins GFP

pitching in the minors

I just finished looking through the stats of our minor league affiliates from AAA down to the Appy League. When looking at pitchers I first look at WHIP, then k's to innings ratio and finallly k's/bb's ratio. I know there are many other stats/metrics but it's quick and easy to see who's having a good year and who isn't. So, give me some reason to be optimistic about our minor league pitching at this point. I'm not seeing much reason and really not seeing much dominance on anyone's part. It'

silverslugger

silverslugger

My take on Liiriano Trade

Scrambling to find out who the prospects were, I found the following, escobar a plus defender on the major league roster, Hernandez was being called up to start, so essentially the Twins traded for two major leaguers starting their careers. Hard to imagine a better haul given all the uncertainty surrounding Liriano.   Had Liriano started again today, there might not have been any value left. Understanding, Terry Ryans ability and the circumstances, I think it was a pretty good deal.   An inter

freightmaster

freightmaster

Ten Things I HATE About The Liriano Trade

Ten Things I HATE About The Liriano Trade   I started making a list of the top 10 things I hate about this trade for today’s Gleeman and the Geek podcast. I’m up to #28.   (Kill me. Or better yet, add on in the comments section.)   1. I hate that after waiting out the market so Liriano was the best remaining rental, the Twins traded him after his one terrible start in the last two months and less than 24 hours before a possible redeeming start.   2. I hate that what the Twins got in return is S

John  Bonnes

John Bonnes

Trade Implications: Liriano

You can go read various threads and articles on this site if you want opinions on how the Twins did by trading Francisco Liriano to the division-leading Chicago White Sox.   I'm going to break down what this trade does from an organization standpoint.   SALARY:   It appears that the White Sox will pick up the rest of Liriano's tab for the season. This saved the Twins $2,073,800. (Their payroll is now $97,775,800 before factoring in the 25th player they need to add.)   Both Eduardo Escobar an

Jeremy Nygaard

Jeremy Nygaard

Twins Trade Talk 2012: July 29: What did the Twins Receive in The Frankie Trade

Originally published at The Tenth Inning Stretch ----   This continues the dialy trade talk updates for the Twins and of action around the league that influences the Twins trade moves, up until the deadline. You can find all the older updates here, in reverse chronological order.   Yesterday there was more action that talk, because the Twins have traded their ace Fransisco Liriano to the hated Chicago White Sox for SS Eduardo Escobar and LHP Pedro Hernandez. At first thought, The Frankie Tr

Thrylos

Thrylos

Adopt a Prospect #6: Luis Perdomo's Debut!

Well, that debut could definitely have gone better.   After posting a .949 WHIP between AA & AAA (only .661 in AAA) Luis Perdomo gave up 1 hit, 3 walks and a Swagalicious Error to 7 batters last night, his first night as an honest to goodness Minnesota Twin. He was wild (19 balls to just 11 strikes) and gave up 2 (unearned) runs before leaving the bases loaded in low leverage situation.   There is one natural thing to blame this on: THE SOUL PATCH!!   LUIS, your beard is a thing of beauty an

PeanutsFromHeaven

PeanutsFromHeaven

Twins Pitching in Good Shape

Dan Gladden and Chris were very complimentary of Deduno tonight, echoing my sentiments. Gladden said "he is athletic, he is teachable..." I think he loves baseball.   Add Diamond and De Vries, and this could be a solid foundation for years to come.   Caution of course is needed because the league really hasnt seen these guys. When they have been around the league next year we will have a better barometer. I do believe Diamond and Deduno are solid, but when they get knocked around a few time

freightmaster

freightmaster

If Valencia Does Well It Could Create An Interesting Situation For The Twins

Originally posted at http://troystwinsdugout.wordpress.com/2012/07/28/if-valencia-does-well-it-could-create-an-interesting-situation-for-the-twins/   Today, Danny Valencia Will be in uniform and is expected to start at third Base for tonight’s game. Valencia replaces Trevor Plouffe Who has a sore thumb and was placed on the 15 day DL retroactive July 20.   Valencia was batting .190 with 1 homerun and 11 RBI before he was given a one way ticket back to Rochester in early May . While with the Red

Troy Larson

Troy Larson

Twins Trade Talk 2012: July 28

Originally posted at The Tenth Inning Stretch ----- This continues the dialy trade talk updates for the Twins and of action around the league that influences the Twins trade moves, up until the deadline. You can find all the older updates here, in reverse chronological order. Here is the Twins Trade Talk the past 24 hours or so:   Ben Goessling of the Pioneer Press reports that Twins' interim General Manager, Terry Ryan, "is making and taking calls". This is the first time that it was repo

Thrylos

Thrylos

Friday Night Minor League Lights

For the first time in quite awhile, the Twins game was very enjoyable to watch on Friday night. Scott Diamond had his best pitching performance in his big league career by throwing a complete game shutout with only three hits surrendered. He was remarkably efficient by throwing less than 100 pitches during his nine innings on the mound. With some not so smooth outings in his last few appearances, it was good to see Diamond get a fantastic start under his belt and hopefully he can stay on track f

Cody Christie

Cody Christie

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