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  1. I was just asking if you wanted to trade Gibson a couple of years ago and he was a good pitcher then (at least by WAR), is it time to trade May since he is 28 and hasn't really done anything in the Majors?
  2. Going on that logic is it time to trade May? Not defending Gibson, but at 28 he was coming off two 2.0+ WARs. May is 28 and has career .2 WAR (Baseball Reference)
  3. In the last 3 years.(avg/obp) None on - .267/.325 Runners on - .214/.289 scoring position - .207/.267 bases loaded - .235/.211 leading off - .244/.308 scoring position 2 outs -.147/.227 Is that clutch? Also last year they thought so much of him as a right handed hitter, they gave him 65 at bats and hit .185, he was good the two years prior.
  4. IMO he gets exposed for the player he is.
  5. Well I guess Houston felt guilty for the robbing the Red Sox and left Santana available for the rule 5 draft hoping the Sox would get him, but the Twins got him instead.
  6. He was also playing 3B and blocked by Boggs, doesn't make it better but could have been in their thinking.
  7. Besides the AJ one I am not 100% sure it wouldn't also be considered some sort of win for the other team as well. Here is Grant Brisbee take on the AJ trade 10 years later. "A reliever recovering from serious shoulder injuries who had the first good season of his major-league career. A prospect with reduced velocity and strikeout rates. An oft-injured pitcher in the low minors who had never thrown more than 80 innings in a season. This was the package for a young catcher coming off his best season."
  8. I am interested in why you think he will get better than that, we are now less than 3 weeks before the season starts. I was actually thinking we could try for less, but the same idea of a 2nd year buyout (mutual)
  9. I have no regrets trading Ramos, I have and didn't like it at the time for who we traded him for. He played in Washington for 7 years and 3 times played in more than 88 games. And two of those were his last 2 years. Plus Washington thought so much of him even after those two years they let him leave as a free agent where he had to take a pay cut. And of course played 64 games for Tampa has replacement level. I believe Ramos is an example of trading prospects and having it not come back to haunt you. IMO
  10. I would take that bet, the fact that people are using Bagwell and Smotlz as examples, (those happened about 30 years ago) I mean the Colon to the expos trade would be another and that was ~17 years ago. Maybe you could say the Teixeira to the Braves in 2007 for Elvis Andrus, Neftali Feliz and Matt Harrison and that was 10 years ago. there are probably a few more I missed. But there have been a ton of trades that include highly regarded prospects that haven't came back to hurt the team, or the player helped the team win or get close to the world series. I would bet the Tigers wouldn't take back trading Miller to the Marlins for Cabrera.
  11. Of course you could, but what is the better plan for success? Hope and pray or try to plan for all scenarios? Why do people think May is going to comeback and be something he never has been at the age of 28? unless I am missing something his last big league start was July 1st 2015, and since then had Tommy John surgery. I hope like heck he comes bad and turns into the pitcher everybody hoped he would be 6 years ago.
  12. I would be bet there are WAY more examples of prospects that didn't turn out to be anything then there are of Smotlz and Bagwell. I am not sure Ramos has turned out to be a guy we really regret unless you don't discount the injuries.
  13. In a perfect world where Romero and Gonsalves pan out and can make 25-30 starts in the majors next year that works. But in the real world you have to plan in case things don't. Imagine we extend Dozier and Buxton, and Gibson sucks, Odorizz is average, Romero can't handle starting and Gonzo is just a 4 or 5. Then we are in the same place we have been, looking to trade Dozier/Santana and playing for 2021 or 2022 when the pitchers in A ball come up. I say offer Cobb or Lynn 15 million for one year and a team option for another 15 million with a couple million buy out. I am not worried about losing the pick or the 40 man spot. Since Vargas and Sanchez.
  14. To me 2/20 or 1/12 would be a no brainer. If he is good, well that is great. If he is good and our young guys are good, that is also great. If he is bad, the Twins are out millions but what is 10-20 million to them. I don't see them saying crap now we can't sign anybody next year and if they do, well we weren't real players for the world series ever.
  15. agree, but the only one I am not worried about is losing the pick, the odds say that pick won't in the majors for 4 or 5 years if at all. and if Lynn helps make the playoffs it will be worth it.
  16. If the Twins have any thoughts of using him in the pen this year, and he proves he can do it this spring, he should come north with the club. If they only want him to work on being a starter, then it doesn't matter if he starts in AAA or AA, because it doesn't sound like he is working on a pitch refinement, it is more of stretching out and getting stronger.
  17. I would argue that fans care more about winning then the players. So if your team continues to win, the fans would be fine with swapping out players. Example the patriots. The hard part about paying earlier in the players career, is that the players that don't turn into stars will end up getting less money. Look at the NFL players basically all good players get a decent first FA contract and after that they have to start taking less money. Maybe part of the solution is a higher base salary for example 1 million.
  18. Totally agree with that. That is why it makes it tough in baseball. Usually I am not a big comprehensive change guy, but in baseball I think it all needs to be looked at. Starting at trading picks and go up from there. If you end up with a top 3 pick a few years in a row, you might not be spending (probably not) a bunch at the major league level, but those 3 picks aren't cheap either and if you spend a millions of dollars looking for international prospects that probably should be considered as well. I really don't see the teams tanking as the problem, it is teams like Tampa, Florida and maybe even Oakland and KC, that are bad and when they actually hit on a few players they trade them away and start over again. Does anybody expect the Cubs or Astros to say well our three year run is over and our players are close to free agency lets start the tanking process all over?
  19. If the Twins don't want to bring Romero with them to Minnesota, they best send him down quickly to stretch out, because if he keeps pitching this way it will be a tough sell to leave one of your two best relief pitchers in the minors. He seems like the perfect Sanatan/Lirano scenario.
  20. This sounds good, but I believe it only helps the great players, if you are below the floor do you give more to your stars or over pay for lesser players? Over paying lesser players keeps you in the middle, the NBA is the perfect example, the Wolves couldn't get great players to come and thus had to over pay for lesser players. Edit - also not sure how the floor would help players like Lynn and Cobb, the teams that aren't really trying will only offer the 1 year deal to get to the floor and then look to trade them at the deadline if they are hot. If not they keep them for the year and then they are looking for their next one year deal. If you aren't a stud you will basically be a journeymen for your career unless you take less money for more years.
  21. I think everybody would agree he really isn't the Twins 3rd best possible baseball player, but at this point he has a way better chance of playing in the big leagues then most of the guys between Alex Kirilloff,Wander Javier,Blayne Enlow,Brusdar Graterol,Akil Baddoo,Lewis Thorpe. I would think most would agree that is a perfect world these guys should end up better than Gonzo. That is why prospect lists IMO are tough to read and do.
  22. Not talking about accepting anything other then the extension.
  23. Even if he turns into Rowand for the next 6 years, just about any extension would be considered cheap.
  24. agree to disagree, he has way less concerns than most 24 year olds. Most 24 year old have the concern of just making it to the majors, that concern is gone. How many real injuries has he had in his 6 years here? I don't know the answer but it is less than the Sano.
  25. Not sure I would do Gonzo and Romero, but I would be willing to look into some other option. two years at 42.5 million would be a great get for the Twins. Two years would get them to the next round of minor league prospects and he would only be 35. I mentioned a similar trade for Verlander last year. How about Littell, Jorge, Kirilloff for Hamels?
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