Moderator note -- I just deleted about 5 posts from this thread. The problem began when one poster characterized another poster's opinion as "a lie". That was a clear violation of TD policy and that poster has been issued an infraction point. I also deleted related posts, because they were part of a digression from the baseball discussion. I appreciate everyone's passion here, but people need to remember that we all have the same dream -- a winning team. We may disagree about how to get there, but we share a common mania. TD is a place for RESPECTFUL discussion. All posters must give respect to fellow Twins fans, even when they feel that the other person is clearly wrong. Feel free to disagree and debate, but make the effort to to follow our policy, which can be found in the TwinsCentric forum.