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I don’t know who right now as I don’t know everyone available on the FA market, nor do I know who all might make good trading partners. But this team needs impact and I don’t think that is coming from in house. I disagree that the Twins can’t compete financially for Machado, but they can’t compete with being on a coast and being a ‘winner’ right now. We have more room financially than anyone to add someone of Machado’s caliber and if we don’t it won’t be because we can’t but because we won’t. And I think there would still be room to add a good SP and a good BP arm or two. And we will still be needing significant turn-around from a couple of our players that will be on the team next year.

Concur. That lineup is a ‘stand pat’ lineup and is not an upgrade, at all. In fact I might consider it a step back because it’s not a step forward.

Thanks. Good article.

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So, are you then saying that if he does figure out a way to stay off the DL and does become an all-star that all this was spot on? And that it will then become worrisome about being able to sign him when he hits FA because of how unfair the FO was in this decision despite the contrary moaning and groaning about the moaning and groaning? (And as a bit of a note ... let's refrain from calling people's differing opinions as moaning and groaning.)

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I wish Wednesday’s game was at Hammond instead as I don’t arrive in Fort Myers until 7pm Tuesday.

It’s not like we don’t have 15-16 pitchers at this point.

And can we please stop with the opener idea? It’s DUMB! If you don’t have starters that can get through the lineup a 3rd time, maybe they shouldn’t be starters.

Three words for this: DIS GUST ING

And that’s not the first time Molitor has done that this season.

Have you ever had a broken toe? And the big toe at that? It’s painful and debilitating. I’m not saying the FO is all to blame for Buxton’s season, but they had a hand in it, forcing his turn before he was fully healthy, but resulted in a worse situation, And now do this on top of it for their gain at Buxton’s expense. Look, I’ve said before, many times now but posters seem to want to only mention one aspect of my comments to suit their own rebuttal ... if Buxton wasn’t capable or ready to come north, that would be one thing. But that service time manipulation seems to be a primary consideration, not his well being, I have issues with that, especially since they had a hand in his lost season to begin with.

Or, you could also say the FO’s handling of pushing him back to the lineup before his broken toe was fully healed, also had a part in his missed season. They bungled his handling and now he pays an even bigger price for it by them manipulating his service time. I’m glad Falvey mentions ‘making amends’ because as well as Buxton himself, they also had a hand in this, perhaps a bigger hand, but are the only ones reaping the rewards at Buxton’s expense.

Don’t forget Duke, Rodney and Lynn. And they picked up Cave, too. I don’t think it’s really fair to say their spending last off season was unwise; only in hindsight based on results. While I get that results are the end game, most of us were enthused with what was done in the off season. I gave that a pretty high grade, actually. I don’t think it was spending just to spend. If you call the spending that was done unwise, then I think you have to call not spending to outbid the Cubs on Darvish wise.

Bob had some comments about him here that you might find interesting: http://twinsdaily.com/topic/28933-andrew-vasquez-2018/?p=790559

That's what I thought. Even more funny that the guy I talk baseball with at the gym (huge Cubs fan) said that Gimenez screwed up Darvish ... still find that so odd.

Yep ... this is the part of the job that earned them a bad grade from me. Can't know yet what the trades and drafts will yield, though, so ... who knows. But this? Yeah ... why?

I thought I had read he was sent down ... but now I'm not sure. I think he was on their active roster.

lol ... I just got through asking the same thing to myself

I don't know ... was he still on the active roster in Chicago?

Heh, true that ... and no one can no for sure what's what ... so it's all moot and we should delete this thread of opposing opinions.

Again, then, you didn't read the complaint. I have no issues with him not being called up due to health and performance issues. I just don't think service time manipulation should be the only or primary reason to not call him up. That alone is my point.

Lol, well ... not sure I can argue that logic. But ... when it comes to cookie baking, I'm pretty serious, and I wouldn't want to win in an ethically questionable way.

And that is the issue, and should be the only issue, imo. I may not agree with him not being called up, but I understand if there are questions on whether or not he's ready -- physically, mentally, developmentally. If you are reading about Buxton still having health/wellness issues, then no, he stays put and goes home to get healthy and get ready for next season.

Brian, you and I are never going to agree. I think there is an ethical conundrum here. You don't. You're fine with it. I'm not. Yes, it's the way it is and we have to live with it. I just don't believe in maximizing profits at the cost of labor, even if that labor force is a bunch of millionaires. But I find cheering for it and hoping for it, well, wrong, from a human being standpoint. And I understand the frustration of wanting the year back, but this is the thing with prospects becoming 'sure thing' MLB stars ... it's not a sure thing and it's not guaranteed. I still don't agree with 'taking it out' on him because that's how I see some of the comments that have been made. That said, I don't have one single issue with him not being promoted because they think that he needs to work at it, is not ready, and it's better for him, his career and his development, to not bring him up. I don't necessarily agree with that decision, but that I understand. But I don't agree and will never agree, that not bringing him up for the sole purpose of ... let me repeat that ... for the sole purpose of manipulating service time. That that happens, that that's the 'gain' for making the decision to keep him down for development purposes? Okay, that's what it is and that I don't have issues with that but I don't think it should be a consideration. But so many have put the service time issue as primary, and that I don't agree with. Service time manipulation isn't what's best for anyone's development, imo. I just think it's ethically questionable to maximize profits at the cost of labor ... even if that labor makes more than I'd even have a clue what to do with. Management is taking advantage of a loophole. Yeah ... many would. Still doesn't make it something that isn't questionable. Feel free to keep debating ... but you're debating to a wall on this one. Enjoy!