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I'm really starting to hate OBP. It's turning into the reason why I seemingly don't agree with any move a FO makes anymore. Mauer, the team's icon and "face of the franchise" has almost no value beyond it. So he gets every start at 1B and probably bats in the 3-hole all year. Meanwhile, exciting, toolsy guys like Rosario are ridiculed because they don't walk enough (even though his defense and extra-base power give him WAR at or above the Mauer's of the world). And guys like Grossman make teams and figure prominently into Opening Day plans while a masher like Park is sent packing. You know when OBP actually helps a team? When it's a good freakin' team! Billy Beane can look like a genius with crapshoot guys who walk a lot when he has Hudson, Mulder, and Zito making 60% of starts.
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Well, it looks like the new regime has preserved the "All hail Joe Mauer" mantra. After another do-nothing spring it looks like old Joe will be playing first base everyday. I gotta imagine the nostalgia will continue with him being automatically penciled into the 3-slot in the lineup every game. Who knows where a team goes that has its leadoff man out-homer the #3 hitter by 35 bombs? What the hell is spring for if a guy like Park puts the numbers up he did and can't even make the squad?
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Article: Draft Preview: Five to Focus On
JaleelWhite FanClub replied to Jeremy Nygaard's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Gotta love them college coaches letting their aces throw 119 pitches in the second game of the season. Hopefully for Faedo's sake he sees less stress in the upcoming weeks. Count me in on Wright. Right now I would side with the top college arm in the draft. That would be someone who hopefully could rise fast and potentially be added to the mix during the prime years of Sano, Buxton, Kepler, Berrios, etc.- 89 replies
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I gotta say I'm on the complete opposite side of the argument from you. Right now I'll take Gordon at short over the other three. Polanco's a 2B who is only at short now because Dozier's still on the team. Vielma's a glove-only guy who can't hit, and Javier has 9 games in the DSL under his belt. Gordon projects better than all those guys at SS. IMO, we should be hoping that by 2018 at the latest, we'll see a Gordon-Polanco double-play tandem starting for the Twins into the foreseeable future.
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Who among numbers 5-10 would you have ahead of him? All those guys have big question marks attached to their names and have not had the production of Gordon in the minors. If anything I think he's too low. Gonsalves should be #1. I'd have Gordon at #2. Kirilloff has one season in E-town (a good but not mind-blowing debut) under his belt while Romero had a great 2016, but is one year removed from TJ surgery. Gordon's been consistent and is still young enough where most expect him to continue to get bigger and improve the power side of his game.
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Article: TD Top Prospects: #5 Tyler Jay
JaleelWhite FanClub replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
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Article: TD Top Prospects: #5 Tyler Jay
JaleelWhite FanClub replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Miller has to be the "bestest" best case scenario for Jay. I won't hold my breath for it though. Besides being a LHP and having a nasty slider, there isn't much of a comparison. Miller was a dominant college starter and a workhorse. He is a big guy and advanced quickly to the majors. As the article mentions, Duffey's 2015 was most likely an enigma. If a pitcher has great success as a reliever in college and has only two plus pitches, I don't see the problem with keeping them in the bullpen. Especially if the two plus pitches are minimalized as a starter. Jay & Duffey would make a great 1-2 punch for the Twins bullpen in the future. I'd give Jay another 1/2 season to show improvement, then move him to the bullpen if he doesn't perform. At that point if the Twins refuse to make the move, then it would only have to be out of stubbornness to avoid admitting the mistake of wasting such a high draft pick on a reliever. -
Article: TD Top Prospects: #6 Wander Javier
JaleelWhite FanClub replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Here's to hoping he gets to E-town this summer. It's hard, at least for me, to really judge a ranking like this off 9 games in the DSL. A meteroic rise through the system by the teenager and a debut in Minnesota prior to 2022 would be great to see. I guess until then we can dream about double plays turned by Javier & Gordon. -
Mejia was a great get for Nunez for sure. But I'm in the boat that so far #7-10 have been kind of let-downs. But I think we've been spoiled over the past few seasons with stud prospects. I also agree with the thinking that Garver was ranked too low. I'd take on-field success in the upper minors more than projections of teenagers in rookie and Low A ball. Garver, a major-league ready catcher who has '+' talent offensively and defensively, has to be in the Twins Top-10, especially considering what we've seen at #7-10.
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Article: TD Top Prospects: #8 Kohl Stewart
JaleelWhite FanClub replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I've always been on the "overrated" side on the Stewart argument. I guess I bought into the peripherals argument. As the article explains, there aren't really any good comps out there for successful big leaguers who put up such pedestrian numbers in the minors. On this list, though, I think he's slotted right. As the system as a whole, with the promotions of Sano, Buxton, Kepler, and Berrios, has gotten thinner, Stewart has fallen. I agree he's no longer a Top-5 prospect, but he's still young and has been a consistent innings and ERA guy. My blind optimism this season will be that the new regime and an overhaul of the minor league pitching team will unearth the ace potential in Stewart we've been hearing about for so long. -
Thanks for the site guys. It's the first page I check in the morning during the season (slips to maybe the 2nd or 3rd over the winter). It's been a saving grace over the past 6 years of losing with the Twins. A while ago I searched the internet to see if other MLB teams had similar sites, and I was happy to see that TD really is in a class by itself. Keep up the great work.
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I think that at this point it's pretty obvious how badly the Twins have screwed up the last 6 years in terms of missing the chance to fully rebuild. No better example exists than not moving Perkins. But I don't think the Dozier situation is the same. The old regime kept Perkins because they liked him, he's a Minnesota guy, and that he promised to sign a friendly deal if they didn't trade him. Three horrible reasons that show just how backward, inept, and foolish Ryan & Co. were. I also don't think the Plouffe situation from last offseason is applicable either. Ryan & Co. seemed to make the decision quickly that Plouffe would stay, as we heard Sano was taking OF reps over the winter. The team chose to screw with a potential franchise player rather than move a league-average 3B. Being league average, the return for Plouffe, if he actually would have been shopped, wouldn't have mattered as much in the long-run. Moving him to make room for Sano at his position of comfort was the value. But Dozier is not league average. So the return is more important in his situation. And the fact is this FO actively marketed Dozier. They got screwed by a "down market" for 2B. But they didn't compound the situation by settling on a deal they didn't like.
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I was one who went into this offseason thinking that Dozier HAD to be traded. It was the "sell high" opportunity that the old FO regime never took advantage of. Trading Dozier would be a sign of truly competent management. But as the article mentioned, it was cruddy timing for the deal. The game is stacked with impact second baseman, especially among the contenders. With only one team in the running for Dozier, the Twins were all but guaranteed to get the short end of any deal made. A one-for-one deal with Dozier and DeLeon would have been a ridiculous move for the Twins to make. An established All-Star for a single Dodger prospect arm not named Julio Urias would have been a crazy move to make. I actually applaud the FO for their patience here. As the article also mentions, Dozier is still in his prime with 2 years left on his friendly deal. There's no one saying he won't be traded down the line. The Twins haven't had a chance for a big prospect return like Dozier could bring back since the Johan deal. No need to look back farther than that trade to see the risk a team runs when "settling" on a deal late in the winter.
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Article: The Waiting Is The Hardest Part
JaleelWhite FanClub replied to Tom Froemming's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Wow! That's the first time I heard that. I'd second Mike's comment above that that was a really stupid move for both sides. It reinforces the opinion a lot of people had that the old regime had a handful of "their guys" they liked and went out of their way to support/protect to the detriment of the rest of the organization.- 40 replies
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Article: The Waiting Is The Hardest Part
JaleelWhite FanClub replied to Tom Froemming's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
If the trade goes down, then you gotta imagine that Falvey & Co. would tell Dozier that they wish him the best, but "Don't Come Around Here No More."- 40 replies
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Article: The Waiting Is The Hardest Part
JaleelWhite FanClub replied to Tom Froemming's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Something's better than nothing. A flyer prospect would have been better than simply letting them play poorly through to the end of their contracts. Or even worse, extending Hughes after a career-defying season and then watching his arm go to hell. Willingham was a silver slugger winner in 2012. 35 HR and 100+ RBI would have gotten interest from somebody. Most likely from a smart team that would have stuck him at DH rather than watch him fumble around in LF.- 40 replies
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Article: The Waiting Is The Hardest Part
JaleelWhite FanClub replied to Tom Froemming's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
The counterargument to keeping Dozier lies in the past 5+ years of the Twins missing out on "selling high" on a player in his prime for younger prospects that actually project to be ready when the team competes again. Look no further than Perkins, a multi-year All-Star closer on a last place team. He had no value for the Twins other than as a trade asset, but they did nothing. Same goes for Suzuki, Hughes, Willingham, and Plouffe, who hit their peak values while with the Twins, but the team failed to capitalize on trading them before they fell off the cliff. The Twins never fully embraced the rebuild mode during the past half-decade+ of horrible baseball. By trading Dozier, who should be great again next year while the team isn't ready to compete yet, the front office will finally show signs of having a competent, consistent plan they stick to (i.e. 2018/19 or bust!).- 40 replies
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If he advances a level per year (a conservative estimate given his debut in E-town), then Kirilloff would be in AAA in 2020. I think the organization's hope would be he plays alongside Buxton & Kepler in the OF, allowing Rosario or someone else (Lamonte Wade maybe) to be the 4th guy.
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Anybody else super excited about the Eaton trade and what it means for a possible Dozier deal? I mean, Eaton's a nice player, but I can't believe he's worth the haul the Nationals gave up. Giolito alone, maybe. I feel like the Dodgers and Nationals are in the same win-now mode and might give up more than they should for "the final piece to the puzzle." (knock on wood) Here's to hoping if Dozier is traded we get at least two stud prospects back in return.
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Davis to the Cubs? Wow, the champs just keep getting better. Soler to the Royals is interesting. He brings a big bat but doesn't fit their mold of other-worldly OF defense and low K totals. With Cain supposedly being shopped, KC could look vastly different very soon (especially when the Moustakas & Hosmer contracts are up). I see Sano most likely sliding over to 1B (or full-time DH) once Mauer's contract is done. Depending on timing, I think Moustakas could be an interesting FA to consider. The Twins system isn't stacked with 3B, and he'll still be relatively young, LH with some pop, and solid defensively.
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I like the idea of including Stewart in a trade. The question, though, is how much upside do other teams see in him. Given his average showing so far in the minors, my guess is the Twins are probably higher on him then other teams relying mostly on stats.
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Urias has to be untouchable. DeLeon and another pitcher above for Dozier would be great for the club. With the Twins unlikely to contend next year, I would not want the team to focus on finding a SS whether through the Dozier trade or another move or even free agency. Nick Gordon is two years away, and IMO has a breakout year coming in 2017. I think the combo of Escobar/Polanco can hold down the fort in the MLB just fine until Gordon gets the call..
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