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  1. diehardtwinsfan
    I'm not saying Stewart was a bad pick. That's the guy I wanted them to take at 4, and for much the same reasons you cited. The upside though was a #1, as the talk was that he could have 4 pitches rated + or better. He obviously hasn't lived up to that at this point, though it was clear he was very raw (and again, this was hardly news). I haven't given up on him, but I do admit at this point the luster is off of him. that said, the real issue with a guy like Green has more to do with the idea that he's going to need time in the minors. I don't have a problem taking him based on that ceiling if they are comfortable that he will be an ace, but I would say that it would be unreasonable for us to expect him to be in the majors in two years.
  2. diehardtwinsfan
    Question on Gordon. He had an OPS north of .800 for most of the year, but obviously tailed off. Is that more an issue of endurance that he just needs to adjust to or that he's just not quite that good with the bat? If he could maintain an .800 OPS with the bat while playing average to above defense, he's an excellent prospect, but if that OPS dips more into the .720 range, I don't really see him being that good of an asset. He's still above average for a SS, but hardly one that really propels the team forward.
  3. diehardtwinsfan
    If anything, I expect Falvey to add positions to the scouting department early on. I'm not expecting a whole lot of blowing it up that far down... at least right off the bat. Some guys will eventually be let go, but that won't likely happen before June. As for this, yes, I think you have to get the ace. But keep in mind that this was the same reason that we took Stewart a few years back, and that hasn't developed the way we'd have hoped. There's risk there. Green may have the most upside, but he's going to need to spend more time in the minors than say those Vandy pitchers. I'm not against that, but what this tream really needs is for one of those Vandy pitchers (or another college pitcher) to take a big leap forward leaving us with a sure fire college ace.
  4. diehardtwinsfan
    so if Mejia has a changeup in the low to mid 90s, that means he's throwing his FB around 110, right? Stewart is an enigma. We all knew he would take time to develop, so on that you have to expect some downs to go with the ups. The fact that he's still difficult to hit in AA at 21 is impressive, but that K rate... ouch... Then again, he had a nice bump in that in A+ this season, so perhaps we see a similar step forward. I wouldn't count on Kohl for 2017, perhaps not even 2018, but I certainly wouldn't write him off. There's still tremendous upside there, though at some point, the odds of hitting it start to drop.
  5. diehardtwinsfan
    I was going to say... Santana and then no one? I'd have left my 2 and 3 spots blank out of spite... though to be fair Kintzler deserved some nod... But seriously, Nolasco?
  6. diehardtwinsfan
    Buxton had one good month... Not seeing this. I'd vote Vargas over Buxton for no other reason than he forced his way back into the 2017 picture.
  7. diehardtwinsfan
    Couple points... I don't get the love for Turner. Garver is a much better prospect. Turner has no offensive upside, and while he's a better defender, Garver is no slouch there either. Garver could be a legit major league starter, and with Turner's bat, I've got to think the best he's going to get is a Drew Butera type career. Maybe I'm being hard here, but Garver has both out performed Turner and has done so at higher levels (despite starting lower) while being roughly the same age. As for Wells, I think Thorpe has the higher ceiling (he gets more Ks and supposedly throws a bit harder), but two lost seasons really hurts... Flip side, he's still quite young. Not sure what to think about him right now, but given his age and that he's going to be in FTM next season, that's pretty impressive.
  8. diehardtwinsfan
    yeah, I think Rortvedt is probably a bit too high. Let's see him prove it. I'd imagine time fully dedicating himself to his craft would allow for a much better showing in Etown next season... that would be my hope there. At that point, I'd move him up a bit more.
  9. diehardtwinsfan
    I'd love to know what is going on with Thorpe. Is he still recovering from mono?
  10. diehardtwinsfan
    Nolasco was bad before Allen too. Not sure what to think there. Allen was the reason they started making more of a push for strikeouts, but goodness was the pitching bad.
  11. diehardtwinsfan
    I'm wondering if part of the wait is b/c they are going to announce them both with Falvey working through the candidates now... certainly wouldn't be unheard of, but I have to think that sooner than later this needs done as he's going to need time to work through offseason plans.
  12. diehardtwinsfan
    I think the big issue here is risk that gets assumed waiting till July. A lot can happen between now and July, and in Santana's case, that rehabbed UCL in particular is a potential time bomb, not to mention that over his career he's definitely spent his fair amount of time on the DL. I'm not against keeping him. I'm not against trading him. I don't, however, believe that Ervin's value will be that much higher come the trade deadline next year than it will be this offseason, and that lack of FA pitching is why. I do think there may be merit in getting an MLB ready higher ceiling pitching prospect for BD, and then trading Santana for something else (you won't get MLB ready pitching for him, but could potentially get that catcher or some higher ceiling lower minors guys). 2018 has a lot of big name pitchers hitting FA... You can use 2017 to evaluate guys like Berrios, Mejia, May, Duffey, Gibson, new guy, and potentially guys like Gonsalves, Jay, and Stewart. Then you use 2018 for the big splash to fill in those gaps a bit and start shedding off or moving to the pen the pieces that don't fit. My big issue with the sell high thing is that the Twins already have the hitting core here, most of whom are already producing. If this team is going to contend sooner than later, they need to deal with starting pitching sooner than later as well as make sure guys like Sano, Polanco, Escobar, and Kepler are focusing on improving their defense.
  13. diehardtwinsfan
    I'd rather just promote Engelb Vielma if that's what you want. I'm not a fan of the all glove no bat SS. I'd rather just roll with Escobar. Don't have a problem with a guy like Vielma as a defensive replacement, but am a bit too jaded by history to think that this is how it would work.
  14. diehardtwinsfan
    You're right. It's getting old. I'm with you on Ervin, for good value, I'd move him. I'd probably move BD a bit quicker, but I can certainly understand the motivation to move Santana as well. Me thinks the real reason it needs to be said is b/c all of the second guessing on these forums about the trades that didn't happen. I mean... the Angels were really offering Trout for Plouffe this offseason, right? (yes, I'm exaggerating... just trying to prove a point)
  15. diehardtwinsfan
    It's called a learning curve, and whether it's baseball or some other profession, these types of things always exist when you put someone in a harder (or different) role than what they were doing previously. Refusing to show patience through said curve and have a dedication to development is the surest way to see your talent go (and have success) somewhere else. Berrios is probably the closest thing we have in the high minors that is both MLB ready and is likely to have a career that will be better than the average starter. You need to be patient with this b/c while he's shown that he's got little to learn in AAA, he clearly has plenty to learn in MLB. This is not a pitcher you plan on leaving in Rochester to start next year. This is a guy who you give a shot to. He has options if needed, but I'd like to hope that with some different coaches and an offseason to focus on improvements that he can prove himself in 2017.
  16. diehardtwinsfan
    Is there anything saying that McCloud cannot be the GM?
  17. diehardtwinsfan
    I want to respond to this, but the only thing that comes to mind would be something that would get me banned...
  18. diehardtwinsfan
    You've been planning this for months...
  19. diehardtwinsfan
    Ryan's inaction... Let's see... traded for Meyer, May, and Worley. Signed Hughes, Nolasco, and Santana... yep.. inaction. and that's before we talk about scrap heap guys like Pelf. He made a lot of mistakes, and not for a lack of action. If you want to define action is taking concrete actions to fix mistakes, I'll give you that, but that isn't what you said earlier. Doing something for the sake of doing something is about the surest way to make sure things get worse. You have to actually identify the problem first... then you can fix it.
  20. diehardtwinsfan
    Sorry, this isn't true at all, especially when you consider that there are successful entrepreneurs and unsuccessful ones all of which took action. Making mistakes can cause failure... but true failure is failing to recognize them and learn from them. Sometimes, not taking action is the right answer. Sometimes it isn't. I won't argue with you when you say that TR wasn't one to take much action... there's some truth to that... but that doesn't make it the answer to the Twins problem currently. The new GM could take lots of action and do it all wrong. Sadly, it can almost always get worse. I just don't want to see action for the sake of action. I want to see action targeted at fixing specific problems.
  21. diehardtwinsfan
    Honestly, this is another head scratching data point about a guy who can be so dominant in AAA but cannot seem to have anything more than short stretches of good play at MLB. Do keep in mind he wasn't bad through the first half of the year. I have to think that there's something going on at the coaching side of things. We shouldn't be redeveloping our players at the top level, and it sure seems like that's what we're doing (whether it's true or not, I don't know... but the perception certainly fits).
  22. diehardtwinsfan
    We've already got an all glove SS in the minors... I'd rather go for upside if they are replacing Escobar (and I'm perfectly fine running him out there next season). Something though needs to be done on the pitching side of things.
  23. diehardtwinsfan
    I was going to say McCloud/Bloom, but I'd be pretty thrilled here too.
  24. diehardtwinsfan
    I'd like to comment on this a bit. I think we've all seen WOW moves at the deadline... and we've seen MEH moves at the deadline. We can say the same for winter moves. It's all about supply and demand. Granted there's an incentive midseason to keep up with the Jones' and show your fan base that you're all in, but I don't think the premium exists just because it's a deadline. It exists because you have something that everyone wants at the deadline, and in that scenario, they may pay more to get it. But to that point, we know the Twins were willing to trade him, and we know the Jays backed out essentially killing the deal. I think the Twins were quite willing to part with him in July for said premium. I'm not certain they couldn't get a similar deal come December. The question on Santana is whether or not he will have the same value he has this winter come next June. There's a lot of risk the team is going to swallow there, including a well documented UCL issue in his throwing elbow. Given the risk with pitchers that doesn't exist with hitters, I'd note that risking waiting beyond this winter isn't quite the same with Erv than it would be with a hitter like Park or Vargas. Not sure if that changes things, as I wouldn't move him for a less than stellar deal, but it does make shopping Ervin this winter a very reasonable option.
  25. diehardtwinsfan
    Just a moderator note, but let's try and cut down on the tension here. There's a lot of good conversation in this thread that is being overshadowed by it. Thanks.
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